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Forgot to bring this up last week. At the endo-of-the-day I hit the 4 RF I had two $1K tickets plus a couple of smaller tickets. When I went to the cashier, she requested my DL. When I asked why she stated anyone who cashed in tickets over $2500 had to be recorded. The ticket redemption machines don't seem to have any problem cashing out multiple tickets that go above $2500? Anyone else have this happen too?

I also got caught last trip - when I was dealt the 5 Aces I was playing on Sweet C's card to build up her points/ average daily play. The pay attendant brought it to my attention when he paid me, "Oops, since I have both of our cards on my ring I must have accidentally played on hers!" was all I could respond. So I was forced to play on mine the rest of the day. But, as a result of playing on each other's cards our last mailings increased our weekly cash by 50%.   

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Forgot to bring this up last week. At the endo-of-the-day I hit the 4 RF I had two $1K tickets plus a couple of smaller tickets. When I went to the cashier, she requested my DL. When I asked why she stated anyone who cashed in tickets over $2500 had to be recorded. The ticket redemption machines don't seem to have any problem cashing out multiple tickets that go above $2500? Anyone else have this happen too?

I also got caught last trip - when I was dealt the 5 Aces I was playing on Sweet C's card to build up her points/ average daily play. The pay attendant brought it to my attention when he paid me, "Oops, since I have both of our cards on my ring I must have accidentally played on hers!" was all I could respond. So I was forced to play on mine the rest of the day. But, as a result of playing on each other's cards our last mailings increased our weekly cash by 50%.   
On the first, depends on the state and casino. I have had it happen to me, and I just refused and walked away to the TITO machine. I am not aware of any 'legal' reason for them to want an ID.

On the second, another case of unjustified crap. The player on the machine is responsible for any winnings, regardless of the player card inserted. The casino rewards department may choose to revoke your Players Card if they like. They have that right. It is doubtful that they would do that, however.

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I made it a point to use the TITO machine afterward. I wasn't sure whether the attendant 's was just noting the fact or making an editorial comment.


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larry...did this happen in a AC casino?    just curious since you posted this in the AC section.I can explain the request for I.D. from the cage for your multiple tickets for amounts ranging from several hundred bucks up into the thousands.......its a futile attempt by the casinos to try and curb (or track) money laundering........here's how it works (some of the time):    A common tactic on the part of a criminal attempting to wash, hide or otherwise deal with large amounts of cash is to go to a casino and start putting the cash into machines which spit out a Ticket for some random amount of cash.   And since the money laundering criminal wants to stay below the radar, it is common for them to have a LOT of tickets for amounts ranging from 300 bucks up to 1100 bucks.....they stay below the 1200 ticket amount for obvious reasons, even though most TITO machines will honor tickets up to 3 grand.   Still, the whole idea is to avoid detection.     But what screws up most money launderers in a casino is sheer human laziness and impatience and stupidity.    The money launderer will over the course of time accumulate a bunch of tickets all with face values ranging from 300 to 1100 (give or take).    What should next happen is the money laundere, over a specified period of time, will redeem these tickets several at a time from the cage......the cage provides a actual human witness to the transaction, unlike a TITO machine.    Later on, if the criminal is ever caught or questioned as to where all his cash came from, he has at least a superficially legit answer to give:  "I won it at a casino!"So what some casinos are now doing is, when a person (like Larry in this case) presents at the cage numerous tickets for the amounts noted above, they simply record his i.d.  on the unlikely chance he actually turns out to be a money launderer.....like I said, it is a futile and almost useless attempt, but the casinos are obligated, as part of their responsibility, to at least "make an effort" to curb illegal activities which might take place in their place of business.


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DaBurglar
Thanks for information.

I do confess laundering money on several occasions. Since I fold my money and often put it in my pockets it has been laundered on several occasions. One time as we headed to the casino I pulled out my favorite jeans and in reaching in the pocket came up with 5x$100 bills that had probably been in the jeans for several weeks.

One trip I was counting out a hit when I grew concerned over several younger guys who were watching. I put my wallet up turned my back and put extra money in one of my socks. Guess my surprise later that night when I pulled my shoes and socks off to find several hundred folded up - that money really needed to be laundered.

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Thanks DaBurglar i'm moving it to another forum area.

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i would bet anyone who frequents a casino regularly has at some point sent some forgotten cash through the washing cycle!    Its almost impossible given the current setup for a casino in a place like Vegas or AC to flatout stop people from laundering ill gotten gains.    That is up to law enforcement and the state's gaming commission/enforcement.     The very business of a casino itself is to have as much cash flowing through it all day everyday.   someone with loads of drug or bank robbery money is almost impossible to differentiate from the avergae highroller or even low roller who has every last cent he has in the world with his person......the ONLY way to possibly catcth these guys is, OVER the course of time, take note via I.D. who is doing what and how often.  Of course this assumes the criminal is dumb enough to keep going back to the same place time after time.Back in 2004, I was subject to this nonsense at the Mirage in Vegas.    One week in February, I was playing a lot of blackjack, and I liked to buy in for usually 2,000-3,000 each time I sat down to play.   well, two nights in a row, I bought in for 3 grand, and proceeded to win a lot of hands early, such that I was up 900 to 1000 bucks after only 10 minutes.  I then quit, and took all my chips with me (about 4 K each time).....this apparently was suspect on the part of the people watching, such that when I went to cash out the chips at the end of the week (I had accumulated about $9k total), they took my ID at the cage, jotted something down in a huge paper "list" they had, and then had to get approval to give me all my money.   At the time I was just miffed, but looking back I now know they feared I was washing cash or at the least, trying to fudge my losses somehow.    Very annoying


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So what some casinos are now doing is, when a person (like Larry in this case) presents at the cage numerous tickets for the amounts noted above, they simply record his i.d.  on the unlikely chance he actually turns out to be a money launderer.....like I said, it is a futile and almost useless attempt, but the casinos are obligated, as part of their responsibility, to at least "make an effort" to curb illegal activities which might take place in their place of business.

I have had the privilege of meeting Larry (and Sweet C) in person. Larry is a very nice man, but I would not trust him laundering one of my golf shirts, much less my money.

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If I have a ticket over say about $500, I always go to the window. One time I saw a big ruckus over by the tito machine. A guy was screaming that the machine took his ticket, yet delivered no cash. Now, I have no idea if he was scamming or not - but it is something to consider when large sums of money are involved.

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I have had the privilege of meeting Larry (and Sweet C) in person. Larry is a very nice man, but I would not trust him laundering one of my golf shirts, much less my money. [/QUOTE]

Oh, BJ I'm sorry I thought you want starch in those shirts!

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