Bizarro World 2023

The lighter side... playing for entertainment, less concerned about "the math."
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Re: Bizarro World 2023

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olds442jetaway wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:30 pm
I have tried some other triple play ... and none of them will let you bet 2 per line etc.
I see a lot of different setups in the wide world of sports. Example, South Point is one of the few properties with abundant triple play 9/6 Jacks. But while some banks are 15-coin max, others are 30. Max bet is mandatory to get the 800-for-1 royal pay.

Not sure about how the individual coins are distributed. Usually it used to go 1-0-0, then 1-1-0, then 1-1-1, then 2-1-1, etc.
For some reason, I find spin poker more streaky than triple play when playing 3 lines. I know the EV is the same, but the variance on spin poker must be higher as almost always spin poker paytables are higher than multi line play.
That's odd. 3 lines should be (slightly) less streaky because all draw cards are pulled from the same deck and the paylines don't intersect. But any number of lines >3 would be more streaky, so probably a streakier format for most players.

I don't know whether it's true that spin poker paytables are generally higher, but if so I'd be interested to know the reason. Commonly, I think operators will set a simple guideline such as a maximum payback. For example, the tech may be instructed to pick the highest available paytables under 99%. And then maybe the lower denoms will be 98 or 97, or 96. That's why sometimes when changing denoms, particular themes will come and go because they may not have an offering within the desired range.

Maybe spin poker paybacks are somehow presented differently on the tech setup screen.

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Post by olds442jetaway »

I think Vman wrote about it a long time ago. I think it has to do with the way spin poker is designed vs 3 play, 5 play, 10 play etc Ev is always the same though. With the same pay table. Also I don’t think you will ever find other than a spin poker game that pays the correct amount for the Royal for bet one. These are always as far ans I know All Star, or All Star 2 machines and only on spin poker never on single or multi line games. I will search a bit and see if I can find the exact answer why.

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olds442jetaway wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:57 pm
Also I don’t think you will ever find other than a spin poker game that pays the correct amount for the Royal for bet one. These are always as far ans I know All Star, or All Star 2 machines and only on spin poker never on single or multi line games.
This really tests my memory because it's not generally significant to me. The only time I would want to short-coin is if the denom is uncomfortably high.

I would say the situation exists on various games, but not very commonly. Here in NV, spin poker in most cases is set up to the standard 250-500-750-1000-4000, iirc.

I'm always interested though in what other people encounter.

Online legal casinos are a different story entirely. Afaik, the norm there is 800-for-1 at any bet amount. All games, single or multi.

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Thanks. I think I found the answer why spin poker variance is different than a three line multiline game. And in spin poker the drawn cards are taken from the same deck, which now only has 47 cards remaining before the draw. You cannot get the exact same hands on spin poker playing three lines, but you can on multi line play that it’s not spin poker.

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Glad your surgery went well. Good luck on number 2.

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Thanks OTA. The hardest thing to remember is the no lifting pushing pulling etc. I am so used to doing almost everything myself vEven no bending over to tie my shoes. I never knew that itself Puts great strain on the eyes and could cause the new lens to fall forward. 15 lbs max till a few weeks after the second eye is done. I guess no matter how old we are, every day is a new learning experience of one kind or another I was surprised the Surgeon said no restrictions on computer or phone or close work. I found out the hard way though about that. No new prescription for glasses till all is said and done so as we speak one eye is kind of fighting the other. Blocking one works somewhat. Amazing the things we just take for granted.

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I just read that every 1,000 steps >4,000 decreases the risk of early death by 15%. I guess I’ll prioritize the Caesars to Resorts/Hard Rock walk and jitney back.

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Certainly can’t hurt. I walk at just under a run. Just don’t always get enough in sometimes. May run up there tonight and play late. We haven’t quite decided yet

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Quantity > Quality.

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olds442jetaway wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:23 pm
Certainly can’t hurt. I walk at just under a run. Just don’t always get enough in sometimes. May run up there tonight and play late. We haven’t quite decided yet
Good luck to both of you if you do go olds.

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