Are casino VP machines truly random?

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Re: Are casino VP machines truly random?

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olds442jetaway wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 6:04 pm
Ted…..When they blindfolded you, did they also spin you around 3 times then point you in the direction of the slots like Bizarro does? 😂

Yes, yes they did.

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I figured they would do that! 😂

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Post by binbin »

Kudos, Eduardo. So much is based on small samples. Even playing once a week for 5 years will not give you the info for players' conspiracy theories. Yes, the RNG randomly and continuously shuffles the cards. No, the Player's card has nothing to do with the actual result of play except for keeping track of the games on machines played, time played, and all info needed for your ADT and worth to the casino in the form of comps.

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Let’s say you’re dealt 4 to a royal. Normally you’ve got a 1‑in‑47 shot at catching that last card. Now imagine the game is secretly rigged in your favor - instead of giving every card equal odds, it bumps your royal card to 1‑in‑46.

Technically that’s better for you… but would you ever notice? Probably not. You still miss the royal almost every time, so from a player’s perspective it feels exactly the same. :)

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Happened to be re-reading this thread to see if any actually useful info. on the subject may have surfaced.
I still have a couple questions on this subject. Who, if anyone, runs random checks on
machines in Indian casinos, similar to what is done in regulated places like Nevada, AC, and others?
Question #2. The RNG in machines, as manufactured, is required to be "coded and encrypted so as to be accessible to no one"
Is it possible for the machine owner to access and alter the RNG?
Anyone with sources of info. on either Question your response will be welcome.
Please don't take too seriously the Poobah's who treat this subject as a joke or conspiracy theory territory when it is really just a quest for knowledge. They are good guy's and that's just what they do.

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tech58 wrote:
Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:56 pm
Don't know of any Indian Casinos that run class 3. Have not been in them all so could be wrong.
I also need to correct this post. Should of said class 2. All Indian casinos I have been in run class 3.

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tech58 wrote:
Wed Feb 18, 2026 11:18 am
Happened to be re-reading this thread to see if any actually useful info. on the subject may have surfaced.
I still have a couple questions on this subject. Who, if anyone, runs random checks on
machines in Indian casinos, similar to what is done in regulated places like Nevada, AC, and others?
Question #2. The RNG in machines, as manufactured, is required to be "coded and encrypted so as to be accessible to no one"
Is it possible for the machine owner to access and alter the RNG?
Anyone with sources of info. on either Question your response will be welcome.
Please don't take too seriously the Poobah's who treat this subject as a joke or conspiracy theory territory when it is really just a quest for knowledge. They are good guy's and that's just what they do.
Good luck getting valid responses. My experience is that all you get are snarky remarks about being clueless or a paranoid conspiracy theorist. What I find interesting is that I have never once seen any reports showing that these games are regularly tested and are certified to be truly random. I actually contacted the IL Department of Gaming the other day to inquire through a FOIA request if I could see reports regarding their testing of the RNGs in these VP machines. Nope. No luck. So much for "transparency". Everyone has the attitude of "Just trust us, bro. They're all legit. And if you don't agree, you're some sort of wacko."

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