Offer to Fa La La La La.... La la la la: Results (5th card flip)

[mickey crimm]

[QUOTE=mickey crimm]The post didn't come out quite right so I'll try again.
 
Oh, yeah, embarrass me with two posts instead of one.    Thanks for the correction, that's 40K flip opportunities and not total hands.  I knew that.  [/QUOTE]
 
In the world of the hustler, CD, a person should never be wrong----

[mickey crimm]

Sorry CD.  I was suffering delusions of grandeur brought on by maybe a shot too many of V.O.  A good time was had by all last night. 
 
Back to the salt mine.  Hopefully, people who have been taking a look or using RS strategies will see the light now.   The outlandish claim that the fifth card throwaway will come back the same rank 40% of the time was just that---an outlandish claim.  Only one outlandish claim of many RS makes. 
 
I think it is hilarious that of 180 attempts a card of the same rank appeared 11 times.  Isn't that 6.1111%.  What was the theoretical chance?  6.383%?  That is funny. 
 
There was a group of Las Vegas gamblers' willing to give Rob 2 to one on the money to gamble on the proposition--for any amount of money.    He threw up every roadblock he could to get out of it and save face at the same time.  But notice how uncomplicated it was for him to meet and play with Webman.  I'm still trying to figure out why he showed up. 
 
If the microchip has pre-programmed hot and cold streaks then it is not a random number generator.  Whatever it is it is not an RNG.  How vast would the conspiracy be if they were gaffed?  Well let's start with the manufacturers' of the chips.  Who makes them?  Intel?  Don't they have thousands of employees' ?  Then there is the Nevada Gaming Commission.  Must be hundreds there too.  Not one whistleblower anywhere over 30 years?  But wait!  What about the New Jersey Gaming Commission?  Mississippi?  Louisiana?  Missouri?  Illinois?  Indiana?  The  list goes on.  And not one whistleblower in this vast conspiracy.  What's up with that?
 
One of the excuses RS is using is NGC is cleaning up the problem.  Changing out the chips of thousands of machines would not go unnoticed by many people in the gambling world.   The chips would have to be placed in the machines, with seals, under the supervision of Gaming Agents. 
 
 
 
 

[oej719]

Rs is a Bozo the Clown for sure. And throw in a Ronald Mcdonald too. The King of Clowns.

[Tedlark]

O.K. oej, you've now insulted clowns worldwide with that comparison.

[cddenver]

Sorry CD.  I was suffering delusions of grandeur brought on by maybe a shot too many of V.O.  A good time was had by all last night. 

 
Oh, no, you were right on that one - I did one of my patented two-minute tossoff posts and oopsied.    Let's see if I can redeem myself.  A little model I set up shows about 10% of dealt hands are "flip" opportunities (Two Pair, Four to Straight, Four to Flush).  So, about 400K hands were played to get those 40K "flip" opportunities.  At 800 hands per hour that's 500 hours of single line play.  As you said, that's an awful lot of time in casinos for someone who claims there's more to life than playing.
 
 
Back to the salt mine.  Hopefully, people who have been taking a look or using RS strategies will see the light now.   The outlandish claim that the fifth card throwaway will come back the same rank 40% of the time was just that---an outlandish claim.  Only one outlandish claim of many RS makes. 
 
Let me toss out a question, for anyone.  Several people have posted that the "flip" virtual experiment is just the latest attention getter for RS.  Specifically, in what ways does he benefit from having his name floating around?  More contacts from people seeking personal training?  Possible future book deal?  More opportunities for paid consulting/appearances at casinos?
 

[oej719]

I would say EGO plays a big role for him.
Also the way he showed me to play the 5th card flip would make no difference most of the time.
Example: If a deal has a four card flush and a ace of a different suit. He holds just the ace. Ah, 6d, 4d, 10d,Jd. He holds just ace of hearts.
He does the same with straights.

[cddenver]

I would say EGO plays a big role for him. 


 
In my mind, that would be an answer only if he does what he claims to do.  But I guess an ego problem of a general nature could enter into it.  Maybe I'm just being mercenary, but I believe it's "all about the money". 

[Eduardo]

oej nailed it unfortuantely.
 
1) Ego
2) Justify his own addiction
 
He has to believe that he is as important as he says, that the things he makes up are true. His name floating around is seen by him as an affirmation of his importance. The more negative the responses, the more it builds up his feelings of being "on to something." In his mind, everyone else is the addict, and a fool incapable of grasping some obvious concepts due to "preconceived notions." The irony of course is that his accusations towards others are almost entirely self-descriptive.

[rascal]

It still does not answer the question as to why he showed up at the meeting with Webman. Showing up for a pre-determined defeat is not Rob's style. The only way he shows up is if he is so delusional that he truly believed that there would be a 40% 5th card flip rate. Everyone laughed and rejoiced at what happened at the meeting with Webman, but the deeper analysis is that if Rob arrived for the meeting truly expecting to see himself vindicated with a 40% rate, then he needs some professional help. Maybe Webman can answer the question as to whether Rob was stunned at the results, or whether there is/was another possible reason he appeared, knowing defeat was "in the cards."

[shadowman]

 I'm still trying to figure out why he showed up. 

 
That's easy, Mickey. I stated right away that he would not show. That put him between the proverbial rock and hard place. If he did show he would embarrass himself by demonstrating he had been lying all along and if he didn't show he would make me right.
 
He hates me so much that last option was even worse than the embarrassment. I had some real good laughs over it.