Hot/Cold Machnes VP Machines?

[DOUBLE B]

O.K...everyone has been on a "hot" machine. Oh!..and those "cold" ones. A couple of questions.  You have watched someone play your favorite VP game for 800 plus hands and not hit anything worth mentioning. If they leave that seat/machine, would you be interested in playng that machne since it has not hit anything in a long time?  Thinking it may be "due". If you are on a machine and not doing very good on it, when do you decide to leave it/change machines? How long do you stay on a "cold" machine?

[cddenver]

I'll steal one of shadowman's favorite sayings - it's the player who runs hot and cold, not the machine.  Every machine has a constantly running RNG, and no special coding in the game software to change the return based on how much (or how little) the machine has been paying out.  By moving from one machine to another, one of three equally likely things will occur.  You might do better by moving than you would have by staying, you might do about the same, or you might do worse than you would have by staying.  There's no way to know.
 
Every year I play a different number of total hands on a different number of machines, a different number of sessions, and play at a different number of casinos.  When I get to the end of the year, if I take that total play and treat it as one long session I see that for the hands played I've hit close to the expected number of total jackpots (quads and SFs).  I don't get in enough play in a year to make definitive statements about RFs.

[Eduardo]

I know how it works, but if I'm sitting at a machine for a long time with no hits, I'll move somewhere else just to try and "start fresh" and improve my mood.
 
I've never remotely considered playing or not playing on a certain machine based on how the player there before me did.

[oej719]

It has to do with the moon phase the preceeding 3 days EST.

[shadowman]

I think everyone gets down a little after an extended period of no good hits. If you're trying to play good strategy you will start to make more errors. That alone  makes getting up and moving around a good idea. Whether you move to another machine or take a break and come back makes no difference. With a fresh mind the game is more enjoyable and you will play more accurately.

[kjohn]

I was playing in Vegas once and Shadowman was looking over my shoulder to help me refine my play...I had a "hot" triple play machine.  Shadow assured me that it was I that was HOT and not the machine...Luckily my husband who was also there agreed with him...  Actually I agree with 0ej it's the moon the tide and magnetic pull of the earth....

[Lucky Larry]

OK, so let me throw into the mix a strategy based on Shadowman's constantly running RNG. Over the past six months we have taken Shadowman's admonition to me that machines aren't subject to "hot" vs "cold" spells. If its me being "hot vs cold" I need to try to change the condition or try to keep it when "hot".   

We, (wife and I) find that we play in a rhythm hitting the button with within a regular range of time. When our play is cold we assume we are not hitting the RNG in the right sequence to get a hit. So to possibly change our place in the RNG sequence we change operations. We change the "speed" button, or we hit the "draw" button, or perhaps the "5 coin" button. While we have not conducted a scientific test of this strategy our anecdotal notes at least encourage us to continue this approach. Besides what can it hurt when you are playing cold. Would love to hear others who try the strategy give some feedback.

LL

[cddenver]

OK, so let me throw into the mix a strategy based on Shadowman's constantly running RNG. Over the past six months we have taken Shadowman's admonition to me that machines aren't subject to "hot" vs "cold" spells. If its me being "hot vs cold" I need to try to change the condition or try to keep it when "hot".   

 
Shadowman!  Was it your idea to have the gaming regulations changed so that RNG's are required to run constantly?  That disrupted all of my pattern recognition research.  I hate you! 
 
LL, since the player and not the machine is running hot or cold, hitting the button at different times won't help you out since every hand is an independent event.  It will certainly give a different result than if you hadn't, but there isn't any way to know if the result will be better, about the same, or worse.  The issue really is one of number of hands played and how often card combinations for nice hits of different kinds come up.  And don't come up.
 
So-o-o-o, my recommendations are:  sit on an electric blanket while you play.  Bundle up - coat, hat, gloves, sweater, boots.  Drink plenty of hot beverages (coffee, tea, hot chocolate).  Play only on hot, sunny days.  If you find a machine with a seat by a south-facing window, grab it.  If you're with your sweetie, cuddle for additional warmth.  Running a fever?  Call in sick to work and then head for the nearest casino. 
 
We all have different ideas of what "hot" and "cold" are, but there isn't any way of skipping over or side-stepping around the "cold" part of play.  Some say there are ways to jump from "hot" right to the next "hot" - and the next one, and the next one, and so on - but it ain't so - you just have to slog your way through those "cold" spells in between.   

[shadowman]

LL, as you say, changing timing can't hurt. Unfortunately, it can't help either. However, it does fall into line with my thoughts on doing anything necessary to keep good concentration. It does prevent getting into a pattern of playing too fast.
 
It all gets down to each hand being an independent event. Whatever you do prior to hitting the deal button (or max bet, etc) is going to change your results for that hand and probably every hand the rest of the session. It is equally likely that you will do better or worse than you would have done with a different sequence of motions.
 
It's kind of like flipping a coin. You can do all kinds of activities before the actual flip. You could even stand on your head like CD does but over time you will still see around a 50-50 split between heads and tails.

[cddenver]

It's kind of like flipping a coin. You can do all kinds of activities before the actual flip. You could even stand on your head like CD does but over time you will still see around a 50-50 split between heads and tails.
 
Wow, another good example! 
 
You can flip a coin while standing.  Flip it while sitting.  Flip to the left, or flip to the right.  Change from a penny to a nickel, dime, or quarter.   Changing the manner of "flipping" () will lead to a different result for that particular "flipping" session, but there's no way to determine what the difference for that session will be.  Regardless of style, over time coin flips will average out to 50% heads and 50% tails.  I like this example and will use it in the future.