Old habbits die hard, unless your winning...

[damule]

Nice hits roveer, especially the $8k jackpot. I'm not too impressed by the 8/5 paytable though. If you look hard enough, most Caesars' properties these days have 9/5 DDB STP especially for dollars. I don't play at Atlantic City much anymore, but in Vegas on the strip there are several Caesars' casinos which have the 9/5 paytable.
 
Nevertheless, huge hit with the 4x multiplier. Can you imagine getting dealt the 4 aces with that? I once got dealt 3 aces when the multiplier came out with 2 more cards to deal, talk about anticipation. Fortunately I got the 4th ace and pulled 4 hands with kickers on a 2x multiplier on 10-play dimes for about $2500. It's a rush!
 
Oh, and by the way, most newer machines will kick out TITOs whenever the credit meter goes above $3,000.

[backsider]

Roveer, Im impressed with the winning and i dont understand the comment about the paytable. Were any of your jackpots fullhouse related?

[onemoretry]

Roveer, Im impressed with the winning and i dont understand the comment about the paytable. Were any of your jackpots fullhouse related?
I think the posters' comment was along the line of: "Why play an inferior pay scale if better ones are available?"
 
And, of course, the jackpots were not fullhouse related.  But, the only way to hit a jackpot is to be playing, and if your bankroll has dwindled to nothing, due, in part, to playing a poor pay scale, you won't be around for a jackpot.

[roveer]

Nice hits roveer, especially the $8k jackpot. I'm not too impressed by the 8/5 paytable though. If you look hard enough, most Caesars' properties these days have 9/5 DDB STP especially for dollars. I don't play at Atlantic City much anymore, but in Vegas on the strip there are several Caesars' casinos which have the 9/5 paytable.
 
Nevertheless, huge hit with the 4x multiplier. Can you imagine getting dealt the 4 aces with that? I once got dealt 3 aces when the multiplier came out with 2 more cards to deal, talk about anticipation. Fortunately I got the 4th ace and pulled 4 hands with kickers on a 2x multiplier on 10-play dimes for about $2500. It's a rush!
 
Oh, and by the way, most newer machines will kick out TITOs whenever the credit meter goes above $3,000.

 
I've had a really hard time finding optimum pay tables at the Harrah's AC property.  Since they are stand-alone (not in walking distance to any other casino), I think they take advantage of that point.  I've considered a visit to other Caesars properties to change things up.  Maybe I'll find better PT's on the boardwalk.

[backsider]

[QUOTE=backsider] Roveer, Im impressed with the winning and i dont understand the comment about the paytable. Were any of your jackpots fullhouse related?
I think the posters' comment was along the line of: "Why play an inferior pay scale if better ones are available?"
 
And, of course, the jackpots were not fullhouse related.  But, the only way to hit a jackpot is to be playing, and if your bankroll has dwindled to nothing, due, in part, to playing a poor pay scale, you won't be around for a jackpot.[/QUOTE]
 Ive always thought it was more important to learn the plays as well as possible than to find 5 extra credits for a fullhouse. I think you play a lot less time on 9/5 than 8/5 if you have to guess on hands for 9/5. I know its best to do both but it isnt always practical.

[damule]

[QUOTE=onemoretry][QUOTE=backsider] Roveer, Im impressed with the winning and i dont understand the comment about the paytable. Were any of your jackpots fullhouse related?
I think the posters' comment was along the line of: "Why play an inferior pay scale if better ones are available?"
 
And, of course, the jackpots were not fullhouse related.  But, the only way to hit a jackpot is to be playing, and if your bankroll has dwindled to nothing, due, in part, to playing a poor pay scale, you won't be around for a jackpot.[/QUOTE]
 
Ive always thought it was more important to learn the plays as well as possible than to find 5 extra credits for a fullhouse. I think you play a lot less time on 9/5 than 8/5 if you have to guess on hands for 9/5. I know its best to do both but it isnt always practical.[/QUOTE]


 
 
backsider,
 
I'm sorry, but what the heck are you talking about?
 
Supertimes Pay double double bonus returns 98.14% on a 9/5 paytable and only 97.05% on an 8/5 paytable with perfect play. For every $100 run through the machine that's an extra $1.09 lost. At the rate roveer was playing at, $30/deal, and using a conservative 10 deals per minute ($300/minute) that would equate to potentially losing an extra $3.27/min or $196.20/hour. That's on top of the already negative expection on this game, using the same rate, of $334.80/hour. I'd prefer to take my chances for that big hit with the extra $196.
 
You are correct, knowing the correct plays is more important than the paytable, But it's assumed at the wagering level roveer was at that the correct plays are almost a given.

[shadowman]

I suspect the strategy differences between 8/5 and 9/5 DDB are very minor. I doubt you'd ever lose anything close to the 1+% from the paytable by missing these plays. Remember it only effects the holds that could generate FHs.

[onemoretry]

Ive always thought it was more important to learn the plays as well as possible than to find 5 extra credits for a fullhouse. I think you play a lot less time on 9/5 than 8/5 if you have to guess on hands for 9/5. I know its best to do both but it isnt always practical.

Playing single line dollars, the cost of that shorted full house is about $35/hour.
 
So, if you play video poker two hours a week at that inferior pay scale, that is $3500 off your bottom line for the year.
 
It is extremely important to know the right plays, but it is equally, if not more, important to seek out and play the best pay scales.

[roveer]

I had my final Harrah's visit on Sunday night.  Once gain, only a few notables.  I hit the dreaded "turn off" point on STP.  This is where at a certain point in the night (this was about 1am for me), the machine(s) basically stop giving multipliers all together, stop giving good hands, and stop paying on hands that it used to.  It's amazing how it happens, but I swear that it does.  This affected 4 machines all in a row.  They all clammed up around the same time and I couldn't get a hit for trying.  Unfortunately for me, I kept trying.  Gave back pretty much all of it.  This seems to be the biggest hitch in my bad gambling habbits.  I've had some pretty good success at getting the machines to pay, but getting out with it in my pocket is a different story.  I should have taken the bigger hit as a check.  That would have assured me getting away with something.  I did that last week and was happy that I did.
 
Anyway,  I'm on Hiatus for the summer.  Time to spend time with the family and have some good old kid fun.  I'll pick up my gambling in the fall.  I hope that gives me enough time to achive 7 stars.  This past trip I passed the half way point (500,000.00 coin in).  Now, 500k to go.