Single Game vs. Multi Game

[shadowman]

Thanks for all the laughs, DaBurglar. That was one hysterical comment. It's truly amazing what some people will believe.

[ginfre]

Even IF 25% of it is true, that's more than most things in life, here in USA.

[EDC1977]

  Why would a casino risk a gaming license to gain a measly profit?

[DaBurglar]

Thanks for all the laughs, DaBurglar. That was one hysterical comment. It's truly amazing what some people will believe.
  Thanks!  I'm known for my sense of humor and ability to make people laugh.   I've stated that I choose to believe the majority of Video poker is legit, and other than my recent (last 3-4 years) results in AC my data and results for the most part fall into expected ranges and results....in fact other than AC I am running a small profit overall. But between the outrageously bad results I have incurred at SOME AC properties, coupled with what I have learned about Video Poker machines, the industry and the gaming commissions, I am willing to hold out the POSSIBILITY that (1) Video Poker CAN be rigged and (2) I may have encountered some of these rigged machines along the way....I am not the only one who feels or believes this. Once again, I ask you to 100% disprove what I have said or believe.....I openly admit there is no way to 100% PROVE what I have said, rather this is a working theory that I choose to believe is POSSIBLE based on the evidence I have accumulated.  wtf is so unreasonable about that?   My friends who have worked in casinos who have seen how some video poker machines are set up describe things and features that are NOT farfetched or unreasonable, and they qualify what they describe by relating how, in the case of settings that could be used to alter results, it was standard practice NEVER to mess with these menu settings, but they were in fact THERE.   And of course they'd also point out how, in years of working in casinos, they dont remember ONCE wherethe NEVADA Gaming commission actually wanted to examine a video poker machine....now again, that is REALLY easy to believe given the state of things and the way a typical state agency/bureaucracy operates!  Didnt you say you lose 8 out of 9 times playing video poker?  yet you still play?  well if the game(s) are 100% legit (which i concede is POSSIBLE, heck even probable, in most casinos) and yet you lose 8 out of 9 times, then why the heck still play?  I'm not judging, just asking, because in the cases where I encounter machines or games that I feel may be rigged, I never go back there or play that game again.   Consider this:  The UNited States Financial industry, including all banks (commercial, investment, etc.) along with investment firms and brokerages, are answerable to a wide range of laws, rules and regulations upheld and investigated by a number of federal and state agencies (IRS, SEC, FDIC, Treasury, State, International etc) ..... far more reaching and numerous and complex than the Gaming Industry.   There are SO MANY different ways to see and conclude that you should NOT defraud or scheme to defraud, and yet REPEATEDLY over and over they do....why would a bank risk its charter or very existence to allow this?  Why would an Investment house or brokerage risk its license and reputation for this?   sound familiar?   C'mon man!   You all cant be THAT naive to fold your arms and pout "Video Poker CANNOT, nor has ever been, rigged."

[edog743]

The play of VP and the profit made is miniscule compared to the rest of the game's on said casino floor. I find it hard to believe if a casino was to cheat they would do it with VP machine's only if at all.
They have more to lose than gain if caught.

[ginfre]

Ok, profit/loss report.  My average coin in over these past 11 months, playing in Vegas, mostly at Boyd locations, is $12,000 a month.  My YTD profit is $55.  Straight up with and without using the cards.  Counting all the free play money from the cards, that they send to me and that I earned.  $55.  Come on pros, tell a small timer, WHO IS NOT GULLIBLE, what you've done other than DaBurglar.  Thanks DaBurglar, you render and offer opinions.  Others give one or two sentence pronunciations that are wholly meaningless. 

[shadowman]

I do not lose "8 out of 9 times" on average. I win around 45% of the time. However, I have lost 8 out of 9 sessions on occasion and I have won along the same lines (7 out of 9 once this year). I have won overall 8 straight years now (and I'm ahead this year).
 
I realize there's never a guarantee that all machines are legit. It's possible a machine could malfunction and pay out less than it should. People should always be watchful.
 
However, that is different than making wild, unsupportable claims. You have to consider that all you are doing is spreading rumors without any evidence. Believe whatever you want but unless you can provide more to back-up your fears I'd suggest keeping it to yourself.

[ginfre]

That is not an accurate depiction of your profit or loss.  That sounds like a median.  Malfunction?  How many computers have you owned?  My guess, for me, is 25.  I've had numerous malfunctions.  Gawd almighty, man.

[DaBurglar]

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However, that is different than making wild, unsupportable claims. You have to consider that all you are doing is spreading rumors without any evidence. Believe whatever you want but unless you can provide more to back-up your fears I'd suggest keeping it to yourself.
  Absurd characterization of everything I have written or shared.....believe me, if I could have snapped a photo of the screen with the menu option/setting that actually allows a casino to reduce the likelihood of a specific hand result I would have!  (I have tried believe me...)  But I have been clear in stating that all I know and all I have shared I have in fact learned or gleaned from others, so yeah, sure, it is technically hearsay.   Still doesnt mean its poop.   I think you are bothered by the possibility that what I am sharing and repeating might be correct, that it is NOT completely unfeasible or unreasonable or even impossible.   Some of what I have shared actually makes SENSE if you allow it to, such as how the whole "Losing one's gaming license" actually is extremely hard to do, and how bureaucratic and fallible (as well as overextended) gaming commissions tend to be.    But my own personal data and experiences I can attest to, and in many cases having watched, played with and helped analyze my friends' play, I can attest to them too....  Still, I will say it again.....I still believe in the integiry of Video Poker as a whole, but I am open to and cognizant of other possibilities and I put it out there all that I have learned and experienced.   I would never tell you that you were full of crap no matter what you claimed to believe or feel....you have every right to share whatever you want, perhaps more so than me simply cuz you have been here longer.   But I am not trying to hurt anyone or gum up someone else's good time with a seat full of turds.  

[onemoretry]

Despite what some people believe they have seen, I have an extremely hard time swallowing the idea that video poker machines can be illegally tampered with that easily.In fact, why would any competent jurisdiction even permit such a machine to be installed on the casino floor?