Take a look at this...

[roveer]

And we keep going and going... So, I'll have the chips, the boards, the glass, the whole thing but besides being able to look at the setup menus, I won't have access to the code unless there is a way to de-compile what's on the chips back into source and I don't believe that's do able.  Anyway,  Assuming that things are legit, the few questions that I have (not all of them mind you), are along these lines. 1.  Does timing of deal draw have anything to do with outcomes 2.  During a game, are 5 cards picked or 10 and does the RNG stop or keep going before the draw?  Is the game decided once you hit deal, or does timing play into it before hitting draw. 3.  Is the time between completed game and new game have any affect on outcome? 4.  Does the RNG stop and or restart for any specified period of time after deal or draw? 5. (and this is a good one).  Does any button or buttons have any affect on the game other than to hold cards or deal/draw.  Does tapping on the screen actually give you good luck (doh!) 6.  What are the easter eggs on a VP machine (some of you non-techies might have to google that one) I did see in one of my other posts that there was an interview with someone from IGT that was giving some of those answers, but I could probably go on for an hour or so. You see, I feel like my play is based a lot on timing, pauses etc.  Not always, but boy it sure seems like I can coax a multiplier out of STP by pausing.  That is unless the spinnie has "gone away" which it does do at times.  Like no multipliers for an hour or more. Those would be the kinds of questions I'd be asking if I were able. Roveer 

[billslim]

You forgot another question Roveer.  Does making triangle symbols over the screen or shouting at the machine or voodoo dolls effect the outcome? 

[roveer]

You forgot another question Roveer.  Does making triangle symbols over the screen or shouting at the machine or voodoo dolls effect the outcome? 


 billslim Sorry, I just assumed that they did.  Actually, I'm not a tapper or a slapper, or a talker.  Dont' get me wrong, there's all kinds of chatting going on in my head, but I'm often the only one not making a sound when I get a hand pay and the crowd is gathering.  Just how I play.  

[Tedlark]

No tickie no spinnie?

[Vman96]

Generally, modern video poker machines have the RNG cycling at all times. So your timing on the deal and the draw matters in the final result. But on average, you won't have any real control over that.

[DaBurglar]

as i have stated before in other posts, there is some sort of USER MENU/SETUP MENU that allows casinos to quickly access and change and work with the VP machines in their place of business.   These menus do have a lot of options and fields and what not that go totally UN-USED (for the most part) during the life of the machine.....such fields would encompass allowing  a user to actually exclude certain cards, increase (or decrease) the likelihood or appearance of a certain hand/result, etc.   The paytable is one thing, but actually manipulating the deal from the RNG is another.....this is obviously AGAINST the general regs, but it is nonetheless a functionality / utility reality.    This is exactly what a gaming agent, if he or she wants to spot check quickly a machine to see what is going on, will access and examine.  They aare NOT going to look at code....most gaming agents, according to my New Jersey friends, are NOT techincally proficient enough for such a task (ex cops, retired MPS or federal agents, disabled law enforcement or soldiers, etc.)   They simply look and see that nothing appears remiss or wrong.   it makes a lot of sense. If a casino wants to modify a machine for legit business purposes, such as a promotional game or "gimmick", such user menus allow them to do so quickly and seemlessly.   I mentioned the example of the time I saw several machines at the Orleans, where Toyota  "4x4" pickup trucks were offered for anyone hitting four 4s, but the fine print of the game display billboard/cardboard thingamajig describing the promotion stated that the normal likelihood of hitting a quad, let alone four 4s, did not apply to these machines and that the actual odds for these machines was significantly changed to make it much harder, as you would expect (i guess) for such a promotion.   I highly doubt the Orleans had 6 machines "custom programed" for a short temporary promotional gimmick.   They just went in to the user interface and accessed the options they otherwise would NEVER access!  lol      I can live with such a reality, I guess, but in New Jersey/AC, it does cause a little worry.  Not in Vegas, where the gaming commission and agents. while definitely spread thin and overworked, are competent and the best in their field of endeavor.   AC basically gets all of Vegas' rejects.  Just like the big corporations, like Caesars and Boyd and MGM, who have presence in both AC and other markets, will "exile" executives and managers who have displeased or underperformed at other places ....they send them to AC as punishment!   Seriously..... 

[BillyJoe]

 
I can live with such a reality, I guess, but in New Jersey/AC, it does cause a little worry.  Not in Vegas, where the gaming commission and agents. while definitely spread thin and overworked, are competent and the best in their field of endeavor.   AC basically gets all of Vegas' rejects.
 
If there is a difference, Burglar, I believe it is less a 'competency' issue, and more of a 'who do you work for' issue. AC used to have their independent regulators in an office on a lot of the boardwalk casino floors. Not only is that gone, but those folks now report to the same state ruling body that taxes those casinos.
 
More casino profits = more state taxes..  

[ko king]

as i have stated before in other posts, there is some sort of USER MENU/SETUP MENU that allows casinos to quickly access and change and work with the VP machines in their place of business.   These menus do have a lot of options and fields and what not that go totally UN-USED (for the most part) during the life of the machine.....such fields would encompass allowing  a user to actually exclude certain cards, increase (or decrease) the likelihood or appearance of a certain hand/result, etc.   The paytable is one thing, but actually manipulating the deal from the RNG is another.....this is obviously AGAINST the general regs, but it is nonetheless a functionality / utility reality.  
 
This is exactly what a gaming agent, if he or she wants to spot check quickly a machine to see what is going on, will access and examine.  They aare NOT going to look at code....most gaming agents, according to my New Jersey friends, are NOT techincally proficient enough for such a task (ex cops, retired MPS or federal agents, disabled law enforcement or soldiers, etc.)   They simply look and see that nothing appears remiss or wrong.   it makes a lot of sense.
 
If a casino wants to modify a machine for legit business purposes, such as a promotional game or "gimmick", such user menus allow them to do so quickly and seemlessly.   I mentioned the example of the time I saw several machines at the Orleans, where Toyota  "4x4" pickup trucks were offered for anyone hitting four 4s, but the fine print of the game display billboard/cardboard thingamajig describing the promotion stated that the normal likelihood of hitting a quad, let alone four 4s, did not apply to these machines and that the actual odds for these machines was significantly changed to make it much harder, as you would expect (i guess) for such a promotion.   I highly doubt the Orleans had 6 machines "custom programed" for a short temporary promotional gimmick.   They just went in to the user interface and accessed the options they otherwise would NEVER access!  lol    
 
I can live with such a reality, I guess, but in New Jersey/AC, it does cause a little worry.  Not in Vegas, where the gaming commission and agents. while definitely spread thin and overworked, are competent and the best in their field of endeavor.   AC basically gets all of Vegas' rejects.
 
 
Just like the big corporations, like Caesars and Boyd and MGM, who have presence in both AC and other markets, will "exile" executives and managers who have displeased or underperformed at other places ....they send them to AC as punishment!   Seriously.....
 

{(ex cops, retired MPS or federal agents, disabled law enforcement or soldiers, etc.) }
 
I can't speak for the area that you play in but I've seen and talked to a couple around here, one was a ex car salesman and the other used to be a school teacher. As for their knowledge of the games it's a complete joke. I ask one gaming control agent if this was Class III video poker and they said "I should probably know that shouldn't I, I'll go check and get right back to you", she returned a few minutes later and said "yes it was", I then ask where she got that info and her answer didn't surprise me one bit, " I ask the slot tech." I pressed pretty hard for answers as to how standard Class III video poker could perform in the manner in which they were and they even said they would perform tests to insure the machines were operating within the regs. As far as they were concerned the test run on the machines confirmed there were no problems and the machines were operatings within the boundries of the payback curve which ranged from 84%-100% payback, a couple were a bit below the curve but they were at lower denominations. I also noticed a couple of the gaming control agents were now employees of the casino, that doesn't even seem like it would be legal.

[faygo]

Now I'm convinced.

[shadowman]

I think vp.com should add a new hat to their store ... made exclusively of tin foil. I think there's a big market.