U.S. COVID deaths hit 200,000

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Re: U.S. COVID deaths hit 200,000

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People have grown used to things in today's world and they all didn't germinate with President Trump.

As I stated before: I look to me first and foremost for protection against contracting the Coronavirus COVID-19.

People who blindly follow do not only blindly follow politicians. The saying: "With great power comes great responsibility" has been forgotten by any number of famous people.

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Tedlark wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:51 pm
Eduardo wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:24 pm
Only an opinion of course, but I think a man in his position encouraging people to engage in actions that are known to exacerbate a deadly pandemic (translation: needlessly increasing the death toll) and downplaying the threat of the virus could fall into that category.
I culled out the part where you are on the track but still a fair bit away from the station.

In order for the above to be considered a criminal act (an act deemed injurious to the public welfare) it would also need to be prohibited.

To date; politicians are not prohibited from making lunkheaded statements. If they were prohibited from doing this, there would be more prisons in the United States full of lunkheaded politicians than there are schools.
trumps indoor rally in Henderson violated the Governors mandate and resulted in the facilities owner paying a huge fine to the city and a state investigation.

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Post by billryan »

Tedlark wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:33 pm
People have grown used to things in today's world and they all didn't germinate with President Trump.

As I stated before: I look to me first and foremost for protection against contracting the Coronavirus COVID-19.

People who blindly follow do not only blindly follow politicians. The saying: "With great power comes great responsibility" has been forgotten by any number of famous people.
Great power corrupts greatly.

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Post by rascal »

Eduardo, in my opinion it is not criminal but extremely, extremely foolish. Dangerously foolish. I am not voting for either of the major presidential candidates and I have already stated on this board that I would never vote for a draft dodger such as Trump. His actions and policies re Coronavirus simply reinforce my refusal to vote for this idiot. Leadership brings with it certain obligations, and on Coronavirus Mr. Trump has failed miserably.

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Not voting to remove a failed leader is not very different than endorsing him.

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Post by Eduardo »

billryan wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:49 am
Not voting to remove a failed leader is not very different than endorsing him.
I don't believe that to be true at all. At worst, it is a half vote against if you believe we face a binary choice.

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Post by billryan »

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for men of good will to do nothing. Not voting is the very definition of doing nothing.

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Post by Eduardo »

"Doing nothing" in my case would mean voting in a way that perpetuates a system that I oppose, which is the two party system with these current Democrats and the new Trump Republicans. If I vote for the R or the D, I do nothing to change that.

You should also understand that a person's vote actually means very little if they are a Conservative in a dominant liberal city or a liberal in a Republican city. My Electoral Vote will go to Biden no matter what I do.

In the end, only in a few swing states will an individual's vote be crucial. We don't always know exactly which states will come into play. But mine is not in the running. Sitting on the couch and going to the polls would have the exact same outcome for most Americans.

Though I do of course intend to vote and consider it my duty.

I'm sick of these Republicans AND Democrats, and neither Presidential candidate is worthy of the office in my opinion. So I will be voting for a third party candidate. Yes, I know they will not win. If a 3rd party does get enough support in an election, they get federal funding the following cycle which could help bring balance to this absurd 2 party system we currently face. And either way, I'm not voting for a party that I now consider myself morally opposed to.

I understand that people get upset when you don't want to pick one of the two sides. I consider it a greater offense to continually vote for people you dislike simply because the other side is worse. That's the game they make us play, and I'm not playing. To each his own.

I say telling me I have to vote for one of only two candidates that I do not support is Un-American. Your vote is your own. Vote your conscience and let God sort it all out.

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Post by FAA »

Election Day can’t come fast enough.

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Post by rascal »

Billryan, I did not say I am not voting. I said I am not voting for either of the major presidential candidates. Give me a break before you hang me.

Eduardo, you hit it on the button. Because of the Electoral College system, the only votes that really count are in the battleground states. "One man, one vote" does not apply to the Electoral College system. It needs to be replaced with a simple popular vote. All men are created equal, except when we have national elections that are controlled by fuzzy Electoral College math.

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