Question for VP Expert !

[DOUBLE B]

Some very good info in this discussion.............

[faygo]

Ah then, there is just plain old unadulterated LUCK.

[EDC1977]

Keep in mind too that a less than 100% payback doesn't always affect your outcome as much as you think. 9/6 JoB at less than 100% is a perfect example seems thats the best paytable you will find for that particular game, it's considered FP. 8/5 BP is another etc etc. You get the idea.
 
As Faygo noted, much of it is dependant on luck since there's no way to know when that magical combination has been spit out of the RNG, only some general idea as to how many hands per RF cycle if you will.

[bigsteve5273@yahoo.c]

To recapitulate the a fore mentioned:  it takes about 40k hands to hit the RF give or take 40k hands?

[New2vp]

For more possibly useless information, when playing computer-perfect strategy with 9/6 Jacks or Better, you have a 50% chance of hitting that 1st royal within the first 27,997 hands.  This seems odd to some since it is considerably lower than the average number of hands between royals; this may be why many get hooked on the game if they start out with an early royal.The chances are 90% that you will hit it within 93,002 hands, 95% within 120,998 hands, and 99% that you will hit it within 186,004 hands.  There's a really wide variation out there.  This may be why many get discouraged after getting hooked initially.

[shadowman]

A couple of things to keep in mind.
 
Although there's a 99% chance you will hit RF in 186K hands, that also means if you play 4 million hands you should have around 100 RFs and 1% times 100 = ... Well, it's not quite 100% but it's very likely you will see at least one of these long droughts. In other words you have an extremely high chance of having one of these long waits the more you play (I've had two around 200K).
 
If you play a strategy to only go for a RF the cycle time is about 23K hands. Of course, you will severely reduce your return. This shows how much difference strategy can make. In 10/7 DB one of the reasons you have a larger RF cycle is because proper strategy is to keep four cards to a flush many times when three of them are for a RF. In games where the flush pays less this doesn't happen at all (or as often). IIRC, the 10/7 DB returns around 99.65% if you use 9/6 JOB strategy. In that case the number of RFs would be statistically the same but you wouldn't make as much money.
 
The last two years I've played around 900K hands each year. I had 24 RFs one year and 17 the other year playing about the same games. So, there really can be quite a difference in real play.