VP-Do you deviate from correct play?

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Lucky Larry
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Re: VP-Do you deviate from correct play?

Post by Lucky Larry »

I can't say I "never" go with a gut feeling or take a chance on going for a bigger hit but about 95% of the time I try to play the correct hand. My wife however, plays 80% correct and 20% gut and risks the higher hand all the time. If we play together taking turns (rarely - because our different approach drives each other crazy and have to agree to keep our mouths shut).   

And, of course she has more RF's than I do.

LL

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Post by shadowman »

I play correct holds about 99.9% of the time. The two times I don't are situations where the correct hold has a very high variance and/or times where the difference between the two holds is very small.

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Post by Eduardo »

I play correct holds about 99.9% of the time. 

Ha. I bet you actually hold correctly about 99.96% of the time! Look out for rounding errors!
 

shadowman
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Post by shadowman »

There are a set of hands in OEJs where the difference between holds is very small. It takes some effort to determine the correct hold. If I took the time to determine the correct holds in all cases my rate of play would suffer and the CB/hour would suffer. I've decided it's not worth the time. This increases my deviation from perfect play from 99.96% to 99.9%.

shadowman
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Post by shadowman »

Here's an example of the situation I mentioned above.
 
5C 3H 9D QS 7S
 
Holding nothing returns 1.2023 credits on average.
Holding the 5C returns 1.2098 credits.
Everything else returns less.
 
If the QS is changed to the 2H then holding nothing is correct. This is due to additional straight interference. Obviously determining all the straight and flush interference would take a bit of time not mention power of the deck implications. I tend to look quickly and will be wrong sometimes. The net effect of this is probably less than .01% on the total return.
 
Of course, those who enjoy these kind of complex situations really love OEJs.

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Post by royal flush »

missing these holds will effect your rate of return less than .05% on fpdw 100.71 vs 100.76. the main thing is for players to avoid games with poor paytables and then to use this site training function.

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Post by BillyJoe »

Or, you can do like I do, realize that you do not play enough hands for the statistics to matter that much, and play for fun and excitement like a drunk monkey. Then, the next morning, sit there and think "how the heck did I lose that much last night?"

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Post by faygo »


Look what it dealt me!!

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Post by cddenver »

Billyjoe and faygo's Drunken Monkey method of play sounds like a lot of fun to me, so that's what I'm going to run with in the future.  New2vp and shadowman, thanks for all of the numbers stuff but don't let the door hit you in the backside on your way out. 
 
Now all I need to find is a VP site with good drink comp'ing info for bar players in Vegas casinos...

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Post by spxChrome »


I would think the important thing isn't the reset amount, but the pay table besides the royal. Even though a higher reset probably indicates a worse pay table (to help balance the lower return).



 
Not always true.  The $5K reset was 9/6 on a 2/3.  Harrahs has a $4K reset on a 1 machine.
 
 

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