Worst casino for video poker ever

[BillyJoe]

Visited new Orleans for 4 days (5/13-5/17) stay at Harrah's the VP machines are horrible . Played mainly DDB . I'm a 7 stars player ,which is Harrahs top players card,so you know I play a lot. GOT KILL....the vp machines stink, you get no play ,never saw anyone get hand payout. Over 4 days maybe I got 5-4 of kind , no 4aces ,no 4-2s ,3s, or 4s and of course no royals. I have played VP in most gambling destinations even cruise ships and Caribbean islands but by far theses were the worst ever. The pay schedules seem to be ok but 9/6 ,9/5 DDB but they don't pay out . Will never play at that casino again. BEWARE maybe it's voodoo!!!

DG, I too am 7Star @ Harrah's/Caesars, and also NOIR @ MGM International casinos. I enjoy playing VP, and as such, you could surmise that I play a lot, since the 'coin-in" required to secure Tier Credits in both programs playing VP is half that of slots. I travel quite a bit around the country, and I frequent many of the properties of both enterprises. 
From my experience, they are all comparable in terms of how often 'premium' hands are experienced. Now the pay tables may vary, but the occurrences of those premium hands are as likely at one property as another. 
With no statistical data to back it up, I contend that VP is random, and streaks, both good and bad, come with the territory. Absence of hand-pays IS NOT an indicator of how frequently 'premium' hands occur, since most casinos now offer low denom ($0.05) options, and people do not always play max coin on higher denom games.   
With regard to Harrah's New Orleans in particular, wife was dealt an RF playing 10-way $0.25 on a recent visit. They are out there - go get 'em...  

[Quad Deuces]

It would seem the appropriate regulation for Harrah's New Orleans would be:







1. All
devices shall include all of the specifications and features as
provided in R.S. 27:302. In addition, all devices shall include the
following specifications and features:









k. games
which shall be random and shall be tested to at least a 99 percent
certainty using a standard correlation test or analysis (a
correlation test or analysis for purposes of this Section is defined
as the process by which each card or number position is chosen
independently without regard to any other card or number drawn within
that game play);

[robclyde]

I'll be at Harrahs NO in a couple of weeks - glad you saved the bit hits for me! Robert

[ko king]

There was a casino in these parts that had Class III video poker machines and they used the royal flush in thier advertisements. At first I thought it was an odd thing to advertise because on average the hand only occurs once every 42,000 hands and having played $2 DDB at Harrah's for 10 years I'd only hit 1 royal and saw one other hit at that denomination during those 10 years. I started playing a lot of vp there despite them having a lower payback percentage than Harrah's, for the year I hit 4 royal flushes and can't even guess how many others I seen other players hit. What I began to notice was how often you were dealt 4 to the flush off the deal, about 3 times above the average of once every 36 hands played. I also noticed how many straight flushes I was hitting there and we all know how rare those are. The drawback was the other hands I was missing out on, because I was seeing so many 4 to the flush off the draw it was taking away from the other quads. I'm not so big on "the game is totally random", I think little things can be done to change the games and still remain within the regulations.

[brmcc74]

Tropicana in Las Vegas. Back in 2009 they had a 6/5 DDB $.25. Horrible paytable for Las Vegas.

[ravenbynight111]

I see a few posted wins from cameras here on the forum. That is great but because you win a jackpot does that mean you won money for the duration of the trip.I also notice most of the hits are 25 cents or nickles.In the last few months a lot of guys i know were in Shreveport and Vegas and have not done any good. This to me is not a run of bad luck. Just to many people saying the same thing. The machines just suck there money and there always behind.These are not a bunch of kids these are people that know how to play and have a large bankroll.They all get comped, room meals,shows. The casinos do not hand this stuff out like in the past.I personally think it will get harder and harder to win in the future at Vp. I just do not trust the big corporations.One other thing when you never see the attendants making hand pays,it has to tell you something.

[backsider]

Uh-oh, you just got under shadowmans skin with that one. He is NOT going to like it because it is not the way he thinks casinos operate. Hes a sharpie you know and he always wins, only he cant prove it. But he does know it all.
 Edited to add (just saw this sharpie post in another thread), you know who he is going to say you are, correct?

[BillyJoe]

I see a few posted wins from cameras here on the forum. That is great but because you win a jackpot does that mean you won money for the duration of the trip.I also notice most of the hits are 25 cents or nickles.In the last few months a lot of guys i know were in Shreveport and Vegas and have not done any good. This to me is not a run of bad luck. Just to many people saying the same thing. The machines just suck there money and there always behind.These are not a bunch of kids these are people that know how to play and have a large bankroll.They all get comped, room meals,shows. The casinos do not hand this stuff out like in the past.I personally think it will get harder and harder to win in the future at Vpi just do not trust the big corporations.One other thing when you never see the attendants making hand pays,it has to tell you something.
I see VP run hot and cold, and overall, you are right - a handpay does not a winning trip make. But there is a reason that most casinos cut in half the tier and bonus points earned per $1 wagered on VP versus slots - you can be a winner in VP. Very tough to consistently win at slots.
 
Of course, it is always better to win early, and not feel as though you are playing catch-up. On a recent trip to Biloxi, I went over to a bank of single-line progressive $0.25 machines to see how high the progressive had risen. It had been won recently, so I opted for single-line $1 TDB, in spite of a poor pay table. Second hand, was dealt two 4s, and BAM, drew two more 4s and a kicker - $2,000. Just happens some times.
 
As far as attendant activity, as I said earlier in this thread, I do not think that is a good indicator of how frequently premium hands occur in VP. I see a lot of people playing low denom games, or playing less than max credits on medium or high denom games. Premium hands, even RFs,  in that environment do not yield handpays.

[ravenbynight111]

You just answered the ?, In the past you could find machines that you could play for hours and be up a bit or down a little.It seems today VP is feast or famine.I prefer the old days. Just my point of view.

[DaBurglar]

I keep meticulous records of my own play --- in fact I posted some of my stats in one of my first posts ---  and while my stats seem to confirm a typical VP performance and do NOT in and of themself prove that I am playing either rigged machines or fair or a combo, I do believe that given the harsh crash and fall from the heights it used to enjoy, the casino industry IS desperate these days (some casinos  more so than others) and it has become more difficult to earn comps and to win in general...why and how this has come to pass is open to much debate and discussion. Just because I stated that VP machines can be altered and programmed in certain ways does not mean that every casino can and does do this....I am just saying IT can happen, and in the case of the casino in Vegas that advertises "More Royals than any other" on certain banks of VP machines, they have modified those machines to deal royals at a higher frequency, but of course that still doesnt mean that YOU will be the one to get them!!   And even a rigged machine still deals winners.....lol FYI -- Caesars (aka Harrahs) Entertainment, Inc.  is saddled with huge crippling debt right now, thanks in part to its ridiculous gobbling up of many other rival properties and corporations at the height of the boom (it paid top dollar for many of the properties it bought due to the belief that the good times enjoyed from 1998 thru 2005 would never end), and also its expansionistic forays into many new markets where, again, it built and bought during the boom times, adding huge debt to finance it.   Now they are trying to hold the house of cards together and are desperate....all their properties are being told to slash costs and I have seen it firsthand in AC at the Ballys and CAESARS located there, and it really sucks.   They are penny pinching now and the customers feel it in so many "little" ways....wouldnt surprise me at all if ALL VP machines just one day disappeared and were replaced by 1 cent "Coyote Moon" fiascoes.... Added:   The Video Poker Machines in Caesars outside their Diamond Club lounge/buffet on the second floor at their Atlantic city location are my candidates for bonafide examples of rigged VP machines that NEVER pay....For three years, I have never won on any of these 25-30 different machines nor has anyone I know, NOR have any of us seen anyone else win on them.   Go ahead and try them next time you are there....you will see, and you will also feel it; something is just not right with those machines.