why this sites pays so good?
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Re: why this sites pays so good?
There is just something fishy in Denmark. I play 3-4 hours a day on this site and seem to play on 300 coins no problem. Yet I go to the casino and drop 2000 coins in no time playing 5 at a time. There has to be a reason other then pay tables and random bad luck. My other poker buds tell me the same things. Are Indian casinos under different laws on pay back? State gaming boards the same rules apply for Indian and state ran casinos?
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There is just something fishy in Denmark. I play 3-4 hours a day on this site and seem to play on 300 coins no problem. Yet I go to the casino and drop 2000 coins in no time playing 5 at a time. There has to be a reason other then pay tables and random bad luck. My other poker buds tell me the same things. Are Indian casinos under different laws on pay back? State gaming boards the same rules apply for Indian and state ran casinos?
No, rules are not the same. Casinos can only offer random "Class III" or "Vegas-style" video poker if the state the casino resides in allows it. Most states do, but some do not and can only offer "Class II" video poker which is electronic bingo masked as a video poker machine and usually pays a lot less back. Also better paytables help us more than a lot of people think. Play a 96% machine at the casino vs. a 99% machine on this site for example. Your average loss should be QUADRUPLED at the lower paying casino.
So a good place to start is: What state are you talking about?
No, rules are not the same. Casinos can only offer random "Class III" or "Vegas-style" video poker if the state the casino resides in allows it. Most states do, but some do not and can only offer "Class II" video poker which is electronic bingo masked as a video poker machine and usually pays a lot less back. Also better paytables help us more than a lot of people think. Play a 96% machine at the casino vs. a 99% machine on this site for example. Your average loss should be QUADRUPLED at the lower paying casino.
So a good place to start is: What state are you talking about?
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Michigan, all Indian casinos north of Detroit
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Wildman you probably got on that dreaded list that the tribes share with each other they pick a few customers to cheat. Sadly you must be on that list there is no way to get off the list. So you should never go to any tribal casino again.
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Wildman one would think the Natives would appreciate everything that was given to them. They got all that land,they recieved food and clothing from the government. So they build casinos on this land then they cheat hard working up-right god fearing people like you. Just does not seem fair to me. I think George Armstrong Custer had the right idea they should have killed them all when they had the chance.
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One should look at the Poisson distribution. Just as a royal occurs every 40,000-50,000 hands (depending on the game and player skill) it is not that unlikely that you will go twice as long before you hit one or hit two royals in this number of hands. Anything with such long odds can happen more of less often. It is the AVERAGE hit at 40K-50K hands..But if you have gone 39,999 hands thus far your chance on a royal on the next play is still 40K to 50K to one. Another factor is that at home you are less likely to encounter sticky buttons, and other distractions that you might find in a casino, thus u will play better.As to the pay tables, I have seen better and worse and the local California Casinos have 99% plus (on some machines with proper play) and both Vegas and Reno have 100% if you know where to look (with proper play). This site did have a reason play at 100.01 percent when you combined the game features with the regular game. The super times pay for example when used slightly improves the payback. For those of you in locales where the pay tables are inferior, careful shopping around can get you the best that they might offer Often in a multi game machine you may have a game that has a better return than others as it is hard to short the popular pays that people come to expect. A good example is Super Aces..The casino cannot short the 4 of a kind pays (patrons expect a certain standard pay on these)and the full house needs to pay more than the flush thus with the full house even at 6 you still have a 98% return. Add double point days, welfare checks (mailed coupons offering free play), and comps and you can probably approach 100%. This site is quite realistic. My suggestion is doing research in probability and statistics and know what to expect. The late Lenny Frome mentioned mentioned that of the 3 legs of the video poker "table" was knowing the game (proper play), finding the best pay tables, and knowing what to expect (i.e royals are infrequent as an example).
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I can only answer for the Indian Casinos in California and Nevada. If they use machines that are also used in NV they have to meet NV standards for randomness and fairness. Of course they could change the computer chip once they receive the machine. I am sure this has been done in places that are poorly regulated with a casino manager who thought this was the best way to increase profits. I do avoid machines that I do not see in NV for the above reason. The major Indian Casinos in the San Diego area seem to have fair games and the results of my play and my room mates play seems to bear this out. We have had good streaks, bad streaks, and average. I have gone 200,000 hands without a royal,Ihave hit two royals on the same single line machine an hour apart. I have thrown away all 5 cards on the top level of a 5 play multi strike machine in an Indian Casino near San Diego and got an $8,000 royal. I have had my donkey kicked as well. A fare trial of a casino/machine should be at least a cycle of 5 royals.
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All I am saying is you can not trust them damned natives all their men are useless drunks and the women are nothing but baby factories.
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All I am saying is you can not trust them damned natives all their men are useless drunks and the women are nothing but baby factories.
And all I can say is, whenever I go to Cherokee, NC, there is a huge sign at the entrance that says "The Cherokee Indians Welcome You". They put that sign there, not anyone else.
And all I can say is, whenever I go to Cherokee, NC, there is a huge sign at the entrance that says "The Cherokee Indians Welcome You". They put that sign there, not anyone else.
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Not only do we welcome you billyjoe, WE THANK YOU TOO!