VP plans for 2016

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Re: VP plans for 2016

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concentrate my play at one casino. I am only a quarter player and I
think dividing my play at too many casinos in the past has been
preventing me from getting better mailers.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I agree. The cost of such a strategy is boredom and constraint. You may get on a cold streak and feel the itch to switch.


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poker states his/her goal is to only play 99+% games. is there anyone who for 2015, put $250k or more through the machines and kept their losses to 1% or less?  i would define loss as one's actual money, after putting free play/cash back/bounceback, through the machines.  play only. no food, planes, hotels, raffles, drawings, etc. 

     1m plus through the machines. 75% at 99.54 games, 20% at 98% or better games, and 5% at lower than 98%. Total return a measley 95%. Very few strategy mistakes by the way.

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1m plus through the machines. 75% at 99.54 games, 20% at 98% or better
games, and 5% at lower than 98%. Total return a measly 95%.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Dismal! Please review Einstein's definition of insanity. Abandon JOB at your casino. At least CS it for an hour to kill time.


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I am surviving 2016 and holding my own by playing a very mild Martingale Clone. I set my goal to hit one of the higher paying hands. For instance on Airport Deuces, a wild royal, or deuces quads. I only bet the amount that will get me even or better. If is is a 400- bankroll day, I start with 5 coins. If it is a 100 or 200 bankroll day, I start with 1 coin ( quarter ) though for obvious reasons, I prefer not to do that. It is very rare to go an entire session and not hit wild royals or at least 5 of a kinds. Not so on the deuces. One can even go several long sessions and not hit them. Nevertheless, this has served me well as long as the discipline holds. If the budget busts, so be it, I will wait till the next trip. So far I have been lucky and not busted, though I have had 2 discipline failure sessions. I am still working on that as are most of us. It is great to hit early in a session, but you feel awful in giving it all back by playing another 8 hours and not hitting anything.

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poker states his/her goal is to only play 99+% games. is there anyone who for 2015, put $250k or more through the machines and kept their losses to 1% or less?  i would define loss as one's actual money, after putting free play/cash back/bounceback, through the machines.  play only. no food, planes, hotels, raffles, drawings, etc. 

I couldn't say I ran through 250k, likely more around 160-175K, but wound up "gamblers even" for the year - ie. around even, within the 1%. Did manage to hit 2 progressive royals and a couple other signers, along with a few days up 1k - 2k. A lot of $800 down days too. Free play was maybe $700 for the year. Didn't get any drawing winners, flights, trinkets ect. Comps were minimal.

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     1m plus through the machines. 75% at 99.54 games, 20% at 98% or better games, and 5% at lower than 98%. Total return a measley 95%. Very few strategy mistakes by the way.
 the detailed records are great. would you say your play in 2013-14 had about the same percentage results? if so, and i believe your record keeping and lack of play mistakes, how do you account for the difference between expected results and actual results?

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I have changed how I manage my wins and so far it's made a big difference. I hope I can continue to have as much self control through the rest of the year.
 how have you changed 'managing your wins"? leave when you are up?

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poker states his/her goal is to only play 99+% games. is there anyone who for 2015, put $250k or more through the machines and kept their losses to 1% or less?  i would define loss as one's actual money, after putting free play/cash back/bounceback, through the machines.  play only. no food, planes, hotels, raffles, drawings, etc. Notes my coin in was $434,000 in 2015, if not for a very bad December would have been up. Was up 2k in mid November then the wheels came off. Lost $1600 for the year. For most the year I played CS and other systems till November/December went back to max bet quarters. I did have well over $6000.00 in free play and that was the big helper for the year. Not sure how to take out Free play drawings, but would have to say $2000 was drawings and a slot tourney win. So would put me at $3600 loss if you back it out.Not including $1200 food vouchers,gas cards $420, gifts or rooms. Was a great year my best ever.For 2016 still max betting sticking to 99% plus games Nsu DW and 9/6 jacks. Playing less but still holding in the black for the year. Three royals so far, seem to be coming in ahead of the 1 in 40,000 hands so might be a dry spell coming.


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sorry, if my 'free play' request was confusing. free play cannot result as a negative on one's overall net results. i am asking that the result of the free play be used as opposed to the amount of free play. if one only had $100 of free play when entering the casino and left with a $1k of real money, they were up $1k for the day.   i am just trying to get an idea if by VP play alone and the free play received as a result of that play, are folks seeing actual results that reflect expected paytable results. because i do not keep records of the machines i play, i do not know my actual vs expected results. but, i know others do, such as olds. i guess i am just amazed that outside of nevada casinos, where better paytables exist, that VP players are able to put a $500k through a machine and only lose $5k, over the last few years. considering the benefits of free hotels, food, etc, that would be a real value, i/m/o.       

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[QUOTE=olds442jetaway] 
     1m plus through the machines. 75% at 99.54 games, 20% at 98% or better games, and 5% at lower than 98%. Total return a measley 95%. Very few strategy mistakes by the way.
 the detailed records are great. would you say your play in 2013-14 had about the same percentage results? if so, and i believe your record keeping and lack of play mistakes, how do you account for the difference between expected results and actual results?[/QUOTE]

     2014 was just about the same as 2015. 2013 not quite as bad, but still only about a 97% return. I'm asuming just bad luck as well as some failed discipline days where I would play 5-7 bucks a hand for a short time in attempt to play catch up. If nothing big hit in that short window, that amplified the results even more to the negative. The other possibility and I hope this isn't it, is there is something funky with the machines. In particular, my lack of Royals which in itself adds nearly 2% to the loss. Two stints of over 500k hands without a Royal, and approaching 200k hands this year without one. Yet I had 2 a couple of days apart a few months ago and those were the last ones. I am also concerned about the lack of dealt Royals which should come around just under every 700k hands. Probably 5m for me without one on the dealt hands. I do see people around me hitting Royals and the Mrs is hitting hers right on schedule. Quads appear to be about right as well as other premium hands. I just hope my suspicion is incorrect that the newer RNGs are designed to play catch up on premium hands in an extremely short window and the rest of the time nada. I really hope I am wrong about that one. Survival with the Martingale clone is going well. I don't even need the Royals playing this way. ( would be nice to have them come in on schedule though.)

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