Donald Trump, con man

[pokerforme]

I like your take Phil.

[DaBurglar]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/veterans-gro ... 06199.html

After reading this preposterous tweet from the tweeter in Chief on the most sacred day for American veterans, and remembering Trump deferred five times to NOT serve his country ( so did Giuliani, five times), there's no argument left. Worst person, biggest joke ever elected by the American public.

I'm serious, if you're a vet like casino knight or anyone else here, how the hell can you tolerate this moronic coward?


And casino knight, stop with this fake simplistic humility that your just a simple soul, you're an intelligent veteran.... somewhere, deep down you know what this guy really is.

[FloridaPhil]

In the past, President's had people who edited their statements.   This presented them as "Presidential".   When you listen to live recordings of these people, you find out they were just as flawed as the rest of us.  Twitter is not editable.  What you say is out there for all to see.  It can't be corrected or taken back.   Now that it's been used effectively, all future Presidents will use it.   Get used to it.This President uses it so he can talk directly to the people, not go through some talking head at CNN.  Trump is not doing what he is doing to make friends.   He wants America to be great again and he's doing it both nationally and internationally.   Can you image what would happen if Obama sat down with Kim Jong Un?   Who would you fear most?  A nice guy college professor community activist or a totally unpredictable Donald Trump?   Trump has thrived in the NY business environment that is the toughest in the world.  Right now America needs that person, not someone who looks good reading from a teleprompter. Will Kim Jong Un give up his nukes and make nice with South Korea?  I doubt it. Will he fear and respect Donald Trump?  You bet.  It's not what Mr. Trump says that is important, it's what he does.  So far so good...

[Casino Knight]

"Will Kim Jong Un give up his nukes and make nice with South Korea? I doubt it. Will he fear and respect Donald Trump? You bet. It's not what Mr. Trump says that is important, it's what he does."

I don't imagine that there will be another plane load of cash heading their way in the near future. Nor do I see President Trump curtseying to Kim when they have a face to face.

[Chicagoan]

Phil's point is valid. Trump is the first modern unscripted president we have ever had, and it is radically different (and offensive to some).

Reagan was the great communicator and beloved by us all, but he rarely ever made a public pronouncement that wasn't crafted by his staff and written and re-written by his top-notch stable of speechwriters. His single most famous line, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!", was written in advance by an excellent speechwriter, who now writes a column for the Wall Street Journal.

With Trump, because he is apparently refusing to be scripted, it is important for the public to judge him by his actions and not his words.

I doubt he will be re-elected in 2020 and I am not a big supporter of his, but I do believe in being fair: this is a different president and a different presidency and using the standards by which we judged previous presidents won't work.

[Carcounter]

Trump is unfiltered, uncouth, and an unappealing human being and he is exactly what we need right now. His approval ratings are going up and although most polls still have him slightly negative, I think they underestimate his approval by 5-10 percent. Some people are still afraid to admit they support him, plus most of these polls over sample democrats. Just my opinion.

[Casino Knight]

Trump is unfiltered, uncouth, and an unappealing human being and he is exactly what we need right now. Just my opinion.

I wonder if some of the folks felt the same way about King David back in the day. Although chosen by God, even though he was a murderer and an adulterer.

CK

[FloridaPhil]

Love him or hate him, history will judge Trump by his results.  He could go down as the greatest President we ever had or be lead off in chains.   Whatever happens the liberal media and the entrenched Washington power brokers will fight him all the way.    The swamp is draining and they don't like it one bit.

[Tedlark]

So, a poster submits information rebutting the original poster's topic: the greatness of Amazon. The original poster then comes back with a different attack, something not even related to Amazon. What a country.....

[DaBurglar]

[QUOTE=Carcounter] Trump is unfiltered, uncouth, and an unappealing human being and he is exactly what we need right now. Just my opinion.

I wonder if some of the folks felt the same way about King David back in the day. Although chosen by God, even though he was a murderer and an adulterer.

CK[/QUOTE] WHo, wha.....what the heck are you even talking about here???   I'm only going to say thiss because I can't even begin to fathom what your real point is here but,   God-the father (Yahweh/Jehovah) chose David after King Saul went rogue and violated numerous sacred points of being Israel's king.....when David was selected he was not (at that time) a murderer and Adulterer......I repeat, when God/Yahweh instructed Samuel to anoint David King he was the epitome of integrity.   it was AFTER David had been king for some time that he allowed himself first to become infatuated and filled with LUST towards Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah the Hittite who was a simple yet loyal and capable soldier in David's army (even though as King David could have had ANY other woman in Israel who was not already married, either as another wife or concubine.)It was only after discovering that Bathsheba was pregnant that David panicked and set into motion the whole plot to get Urriah to return, sleep with his wife Bathsheba and thus have a semi-plausible explanation for the woman's pregnancy.....but as you obviously know, Urriah the Hittite (he wasn't even a jew) was so loyal and full of integrity that he would not allow himself the pleasure of sleeping with his own wife while his fellow soldiers were still fighting and dying at the front.   That is when David then set in motion to essentially have Urriah killed indirectly by putting him at the front where he was certain to buy the farm!        Now, the only people who knew about this at the time and shortly after were David (obviously), Bathsheba, and God/Yahweh himself (who in turn alerted his prophet Samuel to confront DAvid, which he promptly did.)     DAvid immediately confessed and was cut to the heart over his own awful treachery and badness, and he suffered the consequences the rest of his life even though he was forgiven by God/Yahweh.    It's worth noting that God forgives when people are sincerely....SINCERELY.....repentant and sorry, but he does not spare people from the consequences of their bad behavior (hence what you reap you sow always applies.)WHat everybody is trying to do in excusing all of Trump's ridiculously bad behavior and qualities by REACHING.....reeeeaacchhing for some vague "good" benefit that because he is an uneducated (in foreign affairs and history), uncouth, arrogant blowhard that this is what is precisely is needed to take on the narcissistic paranoid FAT dictator that Kim Jong Un is......I do not comprehend the logic of that.   It's typical simplistic thinking with no sound logic and no prospect of success......in fact what IS the objective, or definition of success as far as Trump is concerned????   Getting rid of North Koreas nukes?   the only way to convincingly do that is either regime change, or conquest, and since he has hired that guy with the moustache to be his quarterback (for now), a man who WANTS to go to war simply because he thinks the US military is invincible, this may be what he wants all along.   But of course, neither of THEM will be in any mortal danger, noooooI'm sorry if you don't like the fact I know what I am talking about.....I'll reswpectfully listen and acknoledge any intelligent, cogent, logical responses and counterpoints, but now deflections and irrelevant baloney.