RNG Experiment

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scorpio2
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Re: RNG Experiment

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it ain't no fun if the homeboys can't have none.

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i wonder why the percentages in the back of strictly slots/casino player are not all the same,like the one for trump marina $100.00 machines is 115%,what's with that?

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Post by damule »

i wonder why the percentages in the back of strictly slots/casino player are not all the same,like the one for trump marina $100.00 machines is 115%,what's with that?
 
Scorpio...
 
     In the back of those mags are the monthly reported payback percentages on average. Keep in mind, those figures include slots as well as video poker. Also the higher the denomination, generally the higher the payback percentage.
 
      Quite simply, at Trump Marina on $100 machines (and I doubt there's more than just a couple) the return was 115% of the play through those machines for the month. For instance if you put a $100 bill in and played one hand or spin and got back $115 that would be a return of 115%. More likely, these machines were played several times during the month and someone hit a nice jackpot which averaged the monthly return to 115%.
    
      Also, the reason even the same denomination may have different payback percentages is due to variance. If all machines payed back exactly 90% on every spin, why would anyone play. You could never get lucky and hit a hot streak and win then. You would bet a dollar and get back 90 cents over and over again. But fortunately, this is not how payback percentage works.

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Post by scorpio2 »

i see,thanks damule.last friday night harrahs was packed.het must be doing something right.

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Post by vidopoker »

casinos are always crowded on the weekends.
i went to an indian casino in a real poor part of southern california on a sunday morning at 130 am just a week ago and it was packed!

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I went to Harrah's Ak-Chin outside of Phoenix on Saturday and had to wait over a half hour to get a machine...and there's a choice of 22 vp machines that I'd play there. My wife couldn't find 1 available slot machine in the 3 hours that we were there. I don't know if due to the bad economy people are gambling more and taking more risks to make up lost wages or it's just the good marketing that this casino is doing. For instance, I had $442 in slot vouchers good for this past Saturday there. I wonder if that's why it was so crowded? Maybe everyone had free slot vouchers.

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Post by MikeA »

Same thing with the Oklahoma Casinos just south of the Kansas border this past weekend. My wife and daughter went down Saturday and said that they had to line up behind SLOT MACHINES and wait for someone to get up before they could play!

The only place I had to wait to play VP last week in Vegas was at South Point. Understandable....a bank of +100% machines and locals were working them.

Everywhere else I went, I saw far more empty machines and seats at tables than I saw that were "in use".

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yes,i think it is a diversion from the bad tv news,economy,layoffs we hear every day.playing a slot machine for a few hours with loud good music,or band gets people a little relief.a lot of people work during week so cannot make it to casinos then.casinos seem to be helping.

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Post by EDC1977 »

First you say casinos are empty, then agree that they're full. Which is it? No consistency in your posts. Are they still messing with the RNG's too or is that also just a theory? Federal laws are in place to prevent such nonsense from happening. You were given several links to reead such laws and yet you post otherwise. As shadowman said, why would these multi-million/billion dollar corporations risk evrything for a few measly dollars more? Just doesn't make sense scorpio. 

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Get'em Ed. Don't let up!!

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