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scorpio2
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Re: DESPERATE FOR BUSINESS??

Post by scorpio2 »

guess that's the same with you all,we wouldn't know any of you if we saw you in a casino.except for oej,in the nickle area.

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Post by EDC1977 »

guess that's the same with you all,we wouldn't know any of you if we saw you in a casino.except for oej,in the nickle area. UHH, In case you hadn't noticed, most forum regulars are just average OEJ's with aspirations to become the best players they can be. Not someone who produces videos, writes books and columns and claims to be a VP guru. After a few years of knowing of him, I have yet to see one solid bit of evidence to substantiate any of his claims. A few useful tidbits now and again but thats it! Produce a useful strategy chart according to his pattern detection system or something along his"hot and cold" cycles swings. I just read an article this month from Bob Dancer saying how much hogwash this was since randomness can't be predicted. He claims to collect all this CB/BB money and comps yet criticizes the very people who take advantage of these moneys and goodies to make near positive games become over 100%. Don't know about your neck of the woods scorpio but here it's called hypocrisy!

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Post by scorpio2 »

you better go back and reread rs articles.he states that you are the ap gurus.he just has an alternative to sitting at a vp machine for endless hours,feeding it until it gets out of its'cold cycle.dancer even says it takes a lot of losers to help the casino pay for big winners like him.his style is to feed the machine with $20,000 a sitting,which most of us cannot do.

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Post by EDC1977 »

dancer even says it takes a lot of losers to help the casino pay for big winners like him.his style is to feed the machine with $20,000 a sitting,which most of us cannot do. First, He'd be quick to slander most forum regulars. secondly, Dancer would be quick to point out most VP players DON'T win thus it wouldn't take a lot of losers at all. A good percentage of players don't or won't take the time to learn proper play strategy thus, they're the ones feeding the hoppers. It isn't like Bob hits an RF a day but he does average out to the applied percentages of the machines he plays or he couldn't make those claims unsubstantiated like some do. I don't realy care to visit that semi-truths website anymore than necessary.

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Post by scorpio2 »

i think the average player plays maybe 200 dollars a day.if the casino can take that,say from a thousand players,that can pay off several ap,guru,rf wins in one day,are you with me.the highrollers think,wow i had another great pot shot,a $20,000 rf.the 200 dollar loser says,oh i had another lousy win day,but i'll make it up tomorrow.guess what,the casino welcomes them eagerly.

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Post by cddenver »

guess that's the same with you all,we wouldn't know any of you if we saw you in a casino.except for oej,in the nickle area.
 
Ouch.  I'm sure that will stun oej into silence (for 2 seconds).  You forgot to say that oej would have some company in the nickel area.  Oej, next time you see him there make sure you have your cell with you, I'll pay top dollar for a pic of our favorite expert plunking in one coin at a time on nickels.  I know that you don't need the money, but maybe you could donate it in his name to Gambler's Anonymous.  Standing offer to anyone, actually.  
 
I just got back from my play today.  In about 1,500 hands played I had the same card value come up 6 times on the draw to 4-card holds.  I didn't bother keeping track of the number of 4-card holds I made (waste of time) but it was a lot more than the 12 needed for RS's 50% figure to be correct.
 
As has already been pointed out, that kind of machine tampering would be the worst way to cheat players as it's so easy to spot.   Drop a card, pick up the same card value, that gets remembered especially if it's happening 50% of the time on 4-card holds.  Much better to have another unneeded card come up, then a player just has a quick "aw futz!" reaction before continuing play.  Not one of RS's better theories.

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Post by rascal »

I think Scorpio is RS. (yet again)

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Post by scorpio2 »

1500 hands in one day,not bad,beats dancers 600-800.did you win big,or going back.

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Post by cddenver »

1500 hands in one day,not bad,beats dancers 600-800.did you win big,or going back.
 
Being facetious?  Hard to tell, with the way your question/comment is phrased, but I'll take it as being serious. 
 
I don't have a strategy that involves getting any particular number of hands in.  If I get ahead a certain amount at any point I'll go home, if I'm down after a few hours and then make most of it back I'll go home.  Today I started off well down then made it back up and left, just happened to be after 1,500 hands.
 
But enough about me.  RS isn't doing any training at the moment, is he?  Wouldn't be very ethical to play in a client's money when right now he won't risk his own.  How can he do training anyway, on rigged machines?  I brought this up recently in another post but haven't seen Rob put anything out in an article or video that states his current policy regarding training.  Is he going to be making some sort of statement on that?
 
Another question about his training - he claims to win regularly on relatively small amounts of money, yet the amount he prefers potential trainees to bring to a training session can be $10K or more depending on the game being played.   Since no kind of written info (strategy cards or such) is given to the trainee to cover his or her future play, the goal for any training session would be the same as one of Rob's own sessions - to win that one time.  Why the big difference in $'s required?
 

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Post by shadowman »

Scorpio, do you have idea how you sound? Your posts are making absolutely no sense. Maybe if you put in a space or two they would make more sense. One space after periods and one space after commas. Try it and we'll see if it gets any better.

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