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kjohn, in most games holding 3RF in the situation you described IS the right play. In a few games, like DB, it is also correct over a high pair.
One does not gain an advantage by making wrong plays. Very often a poor play still returns something, maybe an average of 4 credits compared to 8 credits for the right play. That means you will have some wins making poor plays. You can't simply say, oh look I won that time, and assume that means you will be ahead in the long run.
Just so you know, in DDB holding a low pair over 4FL costs you an average of 1.35 credits. If there's one face card it jumps to 1.7 credits. Playing quarter triple play means it costs you about a dollar every time. Note however, you will get a winning hand more often holding the low pair. Don't let that distract you.
right play or wrong play????
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shadowman
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faygo
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How to learn your lesson. $2 DDB, dealt 3 to RF plus pair of Kings. Held 3 to RF, got two more Kings. $500 lesson.
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spxChrome
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spx,
Another question, if you don't mind, out of curiousity: In TDB or DDB, do you hold 4 to the flush or the low pair? An example would be 3c,3h,7h,9h,Qh when the c is clubs and the h is hearts. I think you see where I'm going with this.
I hold the low pair in both, actually did it last night with 4's out came 244. I have got to the point were I will toss the 4th flush card with 3 to the Royal. But that is mostly because my royal count is way below the mean. Both bad plays, but I do keep records as I play. So these plays are not etched in stone. It all depends on were I am in the count. I also would never pull for a gut shot straight I'd rather hold the suiters, or just the Ace on a high or the single low card on the low end.
Another question, if you don't mind, out of curiousity: In TDB or DDB, do you hold 4 to the flush or the low pair? An example would be 3c,3h,7h,9h,Qh when the c is clubs and the h is hearts. I think you see where I'm going with this.
I hold the low pair in both, actually did it last night with 4's out came 244. I have got to the point were I will toss the 4th flush card with 3 to the Royal. But that is mostly because my royal count is way below the mean. Both bad plays, but I do keep records as I play. So these plays are not etched in stone. It all depends on were I am in the count. I also would never pull for a gut shot straight I'd rather hold the suiters, or just the Ace on a high or the single low card on the low end.
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spxChrome
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How to learn your lesson. $2 DDB, dealt 3 to RF plus pair of Kings. Held 3 to RF, got two more Kings. $500 lesson.
Yea I had trip 9's playing $2 last night and the machine did not hold one of the nines (wore out button) and out pops the 4th 9.
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onemoretry
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[QUOTE=damule]kjohn,
I agree its a stupid move, but for the 5 times it worked out = $10,000 for the maybe 100 times I tried it. -$1000 I'd say it's paid off. And it can't be that bad of a play. If your odds of turning a pair into Quads are 1 in 360. I am a short-term player, but your right I would not recommend it if your not comfortable with risking the $5.
The probability of converting a pair to quads with a three card draw is, indeed, approximately 1 in 360. For it to be a quad with kicker, the probability drops to around 1 in 1020.
To have successfully completed this draw 5 times in 100 tries is incredibly, incredibly lucky.
What's that expression? It's better to be lucky than to be good?
I agree its a stupid move, but for the 5 times it worked out = $10,000 for the maybe 100 times I tried it. -$1000 I'd say it's paid off. And it can't be that bad of a play. If your odds of turning a pair into Quads are 1 in 360. I am a short-term player, but your right I would not recommend it if your not comfortable with risking the $5.
The probability of converting a pair to quads with a three card draw is, indeed, approximately 1 in 360. For it to be a quad with kicker, the probability drops to around 1 in 1020.
To have successfully completed this draw 5 times in 100 tries is incredibly, incredibly lucky.
What's that expression? It's better to be lucky than to be good?
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Casino Knight
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How I learned my lesson.Dealt a pair of 7's and 3 to the Royal. Held the pr of 7's.First 2 cards out made the Royal. Cost me $20,025.00
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faygo
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How I learned my lesson.
Dealt a pair of 7's and 3 to the Royal. Held the pr of 7's.
First 2 cards out made the Royal. Cost me $20,025.00
Three to a Royal is preferred over a small pair. Man that had to hurt.
Dealt a pair of 7's and 3 to the Royal. Held the pr of 7's.
First 2 cards out made the Royal. Cost me $20,025.00
Three to a Royal is preferred over a small pair. Man that had to hurt.
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faygo
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[QUOTE=faygo]
How to learn your lesson. $2 DDB, dealt 3 to RF plus pair of Kings. Held 3 to RF, got two more Kings. $500 lesson.
Yea I had trip 9's playing $2 last night and the machine did not hold one of the nines (wore out button) and out pops the 4th 9. [/QUOTE]
SPX , did you call a slot person over. The machine stores the last 50 hands or so. By checking your player card they can determine your loyalty and usually pay off. Have had this experience before. That is how I learned the inner workings of what is retained in memory. A kind Slot Supervisor was very gracious in both paying, showing me about 10 previous hands and called a slot tech to fix that sticky key. marie you will like this it was Casino Windsor.
How to learn your lesson. $2 DDB, dealt 3 to RF plus pair of Kings. Held 3 to RF, got two more Kings. $500 lesson.
Yea I had trip 9's playing $2 last night and the machine did not hold one of the nines (wore out button) and out pops the 4th 9. [/QUOTE]
SPX , did you call a slot person over. The machine stores the last 50 hands or so. By checking your player card they can determine your loyalty and usually pay off. Have had this experience before. That is how I learned the inner workings of what is retained in memory. A kind Slot Supervisor was very gracious in both paying, showing me about 10 previous hands and called a slot tech to fix that sticky key. marie you will like this it was Casino Windsor.
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damule
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[QUOTE=faygo]
How to learn your lesson. $2 DDB, dealt 3 to RF plus pair of Kings. Held 3 to RF, got two more Kings. $500 lesson.
Yea I had trip 9's playing $2 last night and the machine did not hold one of the nines (wore out button) and out pops the 4th 9. [/QUOTE]
spx,
I'm so surprised by some of your posts lately. It's one of the "sins" of video poker to play on a machine with sticking buttons. And you blame this on the machine. This is YOUR fault, not the machine's.
You may get help by a floor supervisor with this though. If you claim the buttons stuck, they can look at history and see you were dealt the 3 nines and may decide to pay you for the malfunction. Keep in mind, when you hold a high pair instead of three to the RF, this will not work!
How to learn your lesson. $2 DDB, dealt 3 to RF plus pair of Kings. Held 3 to RF, got two more Kings. $500 lesson.
Yea I had trip 9's playing $2 last night and the machine did not hold one of the nines (wore out button) and out pops the 4th 9. [/QUOTE]
spx,
I'm so surprised by some of your posts lately. It's one of the "sins" of video poker to play on a machine with sticking buttons. And you blame this on the machine. This is YOUR fault, not the machine's.
You may get help by a floor supervisor with this though. If you claim the buttons stuck, they can look at history and see you were dealt the 3 nines and may decide to pay you for the malfunction. Keep in mind, when you hold a high pair instead of three to the RF, this will not work!
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damule
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[QUOTE=Casino Knight]How I learned my lesson.
Dealt a pair of 7's and 3 to the Royal. Held the pr of 7's.
First 2 cards out made the Royal. Cost me $20,025.00
Three to a Royal is preferred over a small pair. Man that had to hurt.[/QUOTE]
Faygo is right on here. It's also correct to hold some 3 to a RF over paying "high" pairs.
Also, everyone keeps forgetting that the RNG is still spinning before the draw, so the odds of holding something different than what you did hold and drawing the same cards as you did draw are nil to none.
Dealt a pair of 7's and 3 to the Royal. Held the pr of 7's.
First 2 cards out made the Royal. Cost me $20,025.00
Three to a Royal is preferred over a small pair. Man that had to hurt.[/QUOTE]
Faygo is right on here. It's also correct to hold some 3 to a RF over paying "high" pairs.
Also, everyone keeps forgetting that the RNG is still spinning before the draw, so the odds of holding something different than what you did hold and drawing the same cards as you did draw are nil to none.
