Who here Honestly knows people who win most of the

[FAA]

In BP, after my fourth 4OAK or 1,000 hands.----------------------------------------------------------Great rule. Four quad days are scant for me. I've had a couple. That would get me the hell out. If I haven't hit a quad in 800 hands, I'm done with the machine. 800 sans quad is brutal on the psyche, even if bankroll effect is minimal. ! Unfortunately, on Sun I moved to another machine where the losing accelerated at the dollar level.

[billryan]

"I don't play negative games"

BP is negative, isn't it? 99.2% or somesuch?

Not after you factor in the players club promotions..
Tuesday, I play at a casino that gives .7 same day cash back.
Wednesday, I play at a place that gives a wheel spin on 4OAK 5-Ks. You win anywhere from 15-80 coins per spin.
Thursday, I get a wheel spin worth a minimum of $10, a free gift and a free meal.
Sometime during the week, I have to fit in stopping by a place that gives me $20 for showing up plus a $10 food credit.
That's all separate from bounce back cash from mailings and promos. I play a mix of NSUD,BP and JOB, along with BJ.

[DaBurglar]

I'm exactly like Tedlark --- I win all the time. Every session, without fail. No questions, please. If you don't believe me, that's ok too.[Trump]  DEFINITELY, POSITIVELY WITHOUT DOUBT, HUGELY SO, POST OF THE YEAR  [/Trump]Kudos to Florida Phil too for his analysis of the aberrational nature of someone who wins every year by essentially "Quitting while ahead....when the MOOD hits me...." (how many of you out there went "huh?" when you read that line of gibberish?)For a person to win every year, and by extension in most of their individual sessions, by quitting while ahead, this REQUIRES the impossible condition of actually BEING ahead in those specific sessions, and I don't just mean 50 or 100 bucks ahead either.....it is NOT at all likely that a person is going to be "UP" 1000 bucks or more in the vast majority of their sessions playing 25 cent to 1 dollar stakes.    Not with today's games and paytables. 

[DaBurglar]

This falls under the woulda shoulda coulda scenario. For 2016, I believe I was ahead about 140 of 150 sessions at least a hundred bucks. Had I quit at that number, yes I would have been ahead for last year and probably all of my prior years. Unfortunately, that did not happen and I ended up with a very substantial loss cash wise, but not percentage wise. Even the two stupendous pot shot jackpots in early August for 18k each in the same 24 hour period could not overcome the stupidity of continuing to play until I was too either too tired to play more or had to go home for family commitments. Still working on the same issue for 2017. By the way, at least 20 of the sessions last year had up periods of between 1k and 4k. That just goes to show how fast the money goes. When you hit a really cold cycle on a dollar machine 2k can vanish in less than 2 hours. To top it off, the most money I have lost in the shortest amount of time has been on 99.54 dollar job machines when neither quads or full houses were hitting. If I remember, 2k vanished in about an hour and forty five minutes. Edited to add.....I had at least a dozen sessions where I was up at least 500 bucks in less than a half hour. The hardest thing to do is quit playing when you hit early on in a session and you are there for an overnight or longer. Anyone who can do that my hat is off to them.olds, good post.you encapsulated the fallacy of "quitting while ahead" as a long term "Strategy".....You nailed it:  most people when visiting/staying at a casino, are there to play, and if someone early on hits for $100-$200 they are not going to simply quit and walk away.....why would they, and what are they now going to do for the remainder of their weekend in the casino?   Also, they would not have earned or logged enough play to qualify for comps and all that related bs.Quitting while ahead really only is relevant when someone hits for truly exceptional winnings early on (or midway into) their session, something like a 25 cent player hitting a royal 10 minutes into the session, or a $1 denom player hitting a royal or Awak maybe an hour into a session, whereby the "specialness" of the hit makes quitting a satisfying option.I dont think you need to, nor should you, beat yourself up for not quitting during all those sessions when you were up $50-$100 early on....that amount of profit only works after you've been playing for at least several hours and you have simultaneously earned decent comps too.  

[paco13]

That's where I sit most times when I am ahead. It's early in the trip and I have a lot more time left of my stay/visit. I think the difference is that some people have a casino/casino's right down the street from their home or along the way to/from work etc. This I could see making it easier to do a Hit and run strategy. I and others here do not have that option. When we go to play it involves lengthy travel whether it be a day trip or overnight stays.
The other thing is My "hits" are what fund my BR pretty much. So for example. The last Royal I hit put me "ahead". It funded my next 4 sessions. Those were losing sessions so.....

[Tedlark]

DaBurglar playing TDB at .25 will net you a cool grand simply by hitting AWAK. Or a royal, by hitting 2/3/4's with a kicker (twice in a session or easily accomplished when playing multi-hand like I ALWAYS play). Now playing $1.00 denomination makes netting 1K ALOT easier when playing TDB and not just when playing multi-hand.

Just because you cannot accept my success in video poker doesn't mean I don't accept your success with your at home e-bay business. How many Chinese made screwdrivers do YOU need to sell on e-bay to make 1k? Or you could always teach chess too.

[DaBurglar]

DaBurglar playing TDB at .25 will net you a cool grand simply by hitting AWAK. Or a royal, by hitting 2/3/4's with a kicker (twice in a session or easily accomplished when playing multi-hand like I ALWAYS play). Now playing $1.00 denomination makes netting 1K ALOT easier when playing TDB and not just when playing multi-hand.

Just because you cannot accept my success in video poker doesn't mean I don't accept your success with your at home e-bay business. How many Chinese made screwdrivers do YOU need to sell on e-bay to make 1k? Or you could always teach chess too.Yeah that's it Ted.....since you obviously cannot defend an indefensible (not to mention NON-sensical) concept such as your (current) version of video poker winnings and success ..... go ahead and drag completely irrelevant and unrelated issues into the fray.   What little info I have shared over the years regarding my life, such as my EBAY business and my fondness for chess, is in no way even marginally comparable to the ongoing tales of stupendous success you've achieved in Video Poker the past 10-15 years, all the while the vast, Vast......VAST majority of all video poker players during this same period are seeing new records of futility and failure established.   What's wrong with that picture?No one wins as often or consistently for as LONG as you perpetually do.....nope, not today, not in this world, and not in the manner you seem desperate to portray.   Perhaps you need to clearly, succinctly, with no room for doubts or interpretation,  SPECIFY  just what precisely is going on with your video poker  "SUCCESS"......how much, how many trips/sessions, what time frames are you talking about within those sessions/trips?    what rate of profit do you achieve, rate of frequency for profitable sessions.....what games and paytables etc etc etc.Its only logical Ted......if you really wish to convince a jury of your peers (that would be, in this case, the rest of the   www.videopoker.com   forum member audience)  you must first accurately (and finally) define and describe once and for all just what in the heck is going on, thus making your task of defending this record cleaner as well as being openly honest enough to take criticism and analysis in response.    If it really is the truth Ted, then it should easily withstand scrutiny and analysis.   But what it does not do is make it correct to plop other totally irrelevant issues into the mix, like EBAY businesses or Chess (both playing and teaching), as well as the implied potshots at my own personal finances or well being.   That makes you look all the more guilty of lying about your alleged video poker success with your need to fling completely irrelevant issues into the mix, do you see that Ted?

[Tedlark]

DaBurglar I have repeatedly said that is has just been in the last several years where I have been winning more than losing when playing video poker. Who knows, a year from now I could lose every session I play. That is the randomness of video poker. Here is an example: the "math" says that a player should hit a royal around every 40,000 hands, why is it that I have hit several royals well within 40,000 hands and a player like Olds can go 500,000 hands without hitting one?

Please; just accept that for every video poker loser (you), there will be a video poker winner (me). See, you and I are the Yin and Yang of the video poker world.

[DaBurglar]

DaBurglar I have repeatedly said that is has just been in the last several years where I have been winning more than losing when playing video poker. Who knows, a year from now I could lose every session I play. That is the randomness of video poker. Here is an example: the "math" says that a player should hit a royal around every 40,000 hands, why is it that I have hit several royals well within 40,000 hands and a player like Olds can go 500,000 hands without hitting one?

Please; just accept that for every video poker loser (you), there will be a video poker winner (me). See, you and I are the Yin and Yang of the video poker world. Ok not to beat a dead horse, because I think everyone here understands that Ted's claims of success diverge from actual reality regardless of what he argues, but this is just ONE more example of how the narrative continues to "morph" and to be tweaked and modified one little detail at a time.....honestly I don't think even Ted knows anymore......consider the following, paying close attention first to the line I highlighted above from the LAST post;     NOW, please read Ted's FIRST post in this thread back on page one, which I will copy for you here: Since 2007 all of my years have ended positive. The
originator of this forum post will refute those results but frankly I
don't care.

I play by my mood and if I get the urge to quit a session when I'm
up a grand or so, that's exactly what I do. My most recent outing
turned out to be this very situation; after less than 60 minutes of play
I got up a little over $1,400.00. In a matter of minutes the meter
dropped to just over 1K positive so I decided to then end the session
up the 1K.

Prior to that I stopped at a restaurant to pick up a carry out
order and while waiting I decided to put $60.00 into a machine and see
what happened. I was playing single line Joker Poker and the max payout
was $500.00 for either: a natural royal; a royal with a joker; or, 5 of a
kind. Max bet was $2.00. After playing for about 3 minutes, up down, up
down, I hit a 5 of a kind for $500.00. I cashed out at $530.00. This
was the first and probably last time I will play at a machine in a
bar/restaurant in Illinois that offers video gambling.

A recent comment was made about me not posting stories of my play
anymore but my outlook on that is quite simple: why should I post
stories here about my winning sessions when there are those who will
gripe and not believe me? So Ijust don't post them anymore. If someone
doubts my play that's their issue and not mine, I post the good outings
with the bad.

Best of luck all.    Ok, so it's somewhere either in between the "last several years" (which any person KNOWS means 3 years, MAYBE 4 years tops, so that would be 2013)......OR, since 2007.      yeah right.....

[felix]

If you don't win at VP thats fine, no problem, we all do at times, but, don't come on here (to the forum) and brag about it.