The absurdity of mythical video poker "payback"
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pokerpokerpoker
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Re: The absurdity of mythical video poker "payback"
First 9/6 Triple Double is only 98.15%, not 99.58% like 9/7 Triple Double.
So playing that at $50 a whack, you would expect to lose (100%-98.15%) x $50 = $3.70 per round.
And let's say you play 400 rounds an hour, thats 400 x $3.70 = $1480 lost per hour
Let's say you play 20 hours a week that's
$1480 x 20 hours a week = $29,600 a week
Do that for six months straight, you should expect to lose:
26 weeks x $29,600 = $769,600 lost.
And that's just "expected loss" playing OPTIMALLY. Run badly you might be down a few million dollars after six months on a completely fair machine.
So if you, I mean your friend, played like this for months, unless they are as rich as Donald Trump, I suggest they get professional help.
Edit: You claimed you were actually playing 9/7 Triple Double Bonus, which has an optimal return of 99.58%. So in my example above, that means your "expected loss" playing OPTIMALLY after would be
(100%-99.58%) x $50 x 400 x 20 x 26 = $43,680
But again, if you run badly, your actual losses could be in the millions. And if you can't even quote 9/7 correctly, I'm not holding my breath on you correctly holding things like K85 suited. Errors can easily add up in 9/7 TDB.
Are you sure it is $3.70 avg loss per round? I thought it was more like 92cents per round.
So playing that at $50 a whack, you would expect to lose (100%-98.15%) x $50 = $3.70 per round.
And let's say you play 400 rounds an hour, thats 400 x $3.70 = $1480 lost per hour
Let's say you play 20 hours a week that's
$1480 x 20 hours a week = $29,600 a week
Do that for six months straight, you should expect to lose:
26 weeks x $29,600 = $769,600 lost.
And that's just "expected loss" playing OPTIMALLY. Run badly you might be down a few million dollars after six months on a completely fair machine.
So if you, I mean your friend, played like this for months, unless they are as rich as Donald Trump, I suggest they get professional help.
Edit: You claimed you were actually playing 9/7 Triple Double Bonus, which has an optimal return of 99.58%. So in my example above, that means your "expected loss" playing OPTIMALLY after would be
(100%-99.58%) x $50 x 400 x 20 x 26 = $43,680
But again, if you run badly, your actual losses could be in the millions. And if you can't even quote 9/7 correctly, I'm not holding my breath on you correctly holding things like K85 suited. Errors can easily add up in 9/7 TDB.
Are you sure it is $3.70 avg loss per round? I thought it was more like 92cents per round.
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Sea Lion
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^^^ If you really believe these things, why the heck are you even playing! I ask myself that very same question everytime I go to play and then boom - 10 play!
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FAA
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Never understood the allure of multi. Too much losing. Lots of bells and whistles. All expensive eye candy at the end of the day.
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Tedlark
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My feelings exactly FAA. Well, err, almost....
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FAA
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Care to elaborate?
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billryan
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If you can find a multi play with the same pay table as a single line, I'll play ten play every time.
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Tedlark
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Carcounter
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Bellagio once had ten play 9/6 JOB for dollars. Great way to run big coin in with relatively low variance.
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Jstark
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One of my favorites was a rare 25 cent 9/6 JoB super times pay spin poker.
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Casino Knight
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Not a multi-game, but found a 9/7 TDB $5. game yesterday. The first I've seen in a Native Casino, and the only one in a bank of Multi-denoms. Will practice over the weekend and see what happens next week.

























