I was told not to come back, is that serious?

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Re: I was told not to come back, is that serious?

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Player1 Million wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:32 am
Vman96 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:37 am
FloridaPhil wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:40 am
This scavenging thing is new to me. How desperate do you have to be to do that? Try robbing a bank, it's a lot more productive. Getting a job would work even better.
It's the same as vulturing Ultimate X, which will lead to long term profit at VP. Even in Florida! But as we can see by this story, casinos frown upon play that leads to long term profit. Comparing it to robbing a bank is insulting though. Doing this is NOT illegal.

I do this periodically myself. I've only been warned once out of 50+ casinos I've done it in (Harrah's Joliet), but they didn't kick me out, ask for ID, or give me anything in writing.

I don't tend to "vulture" much in Vegas, competition is too great. And i'm a drunken tourist more in Vegas.

Question for the OP, which casino was this?

And since they scanned your ID, i'm not sure I would go back, casinos have facial recognition software. When they asked for it, I would have considered leaving voluntarily.

It was Caesars Palace.
CET and MGM are the worst offenders when it comes to hassling these types of players.

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Eduardo wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:41 pm
In passing, sure. And if someone next to me got up and there were a bunch of multipliers left there, I wouldn't feel bad about playing the next hand out either. I'm not against the principle of it. But just standing around looking creepy and waiting for these opportunities would never suit me. You see it all the time and never once have I thought "hey, that looks like it would be a good use of my time." It's more like "Man, I wish that guy would stop staring at me hoping I'm going to leave something here."

I can see why casinos would have them move along, and I think it has little to do with their "having an edge" on these plays. Someone is going to play that next hand with the multipliers and the casino really doesn't care who.
The people you see probably aren't very good at it. One needs ninja skills these days.

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Ninja skills come in handy in casinos. Bolt cold ones, materialize at warmer ones.

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Jstark wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:31 pm
Player1 Million wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:32 am
Vman96 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:37 am
FloridaPhil wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:40 am
This scavenging thing is new to me. How desperate do you have to be to do that? Try robbing a bank, it's a lot more productive. Getting a job would work even better.
It's the same as vulturing Ultimate X, which will lead to long term profit at VP. Even in Florida! But as we can see by this story, casinos frown upon play that leads to long term profit. Comparing it to robbing a bank is insulting though. Doing this is NOT illegal.

I do this periodically myself. I've only been warned once out of 50+ casinos I've done it in (Harrah's Joliet), but they didn't kick me out, ask for ID, or give me anything in writing.

I don't tend to "vulture" much in Vegas, competition is too great. And i'm a drunken tourist more in Vegas.

Question for the OP, which casino was this?

And since they scanned your ID, i'm not sure I would go back, casinos have facial recognition software. When they asked for it, I would have considered leaving voluntarily.

It was Caesars Palace.
CET and MGM are the worst offenders when it comes to hassling these types of players.
Yeah I know a guy who only plays at one place in another state and the staff there told him he could play as much as he wants outside the high limit area.

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Jstark wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:29 pm
The hell with "casino experience" or "entertainment." I'm there to make money.
There is a guy in my neighborhood who cruises the streets on garbage day looking for "opportunities". He picks through everyone's garbage looking for something he can make a profit on. It might be a worn out chair or table that he can refurbish. It might be an old TV he can sell at the local flea market. It might even be a bag of bathroom bottles with a full jar of deodorant. If I asked him why he does that, he would most likely say "I am here to make money." There are many ways to make money. It all depends upon what you are willing to do to make it.

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Post by Eduardo »

FloridaPhil wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:18 am
Jstark wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:29 pm
The hell with "casino experience" or "entertainment." I'm there to make money.
There is a guy in my neighborhood who cruises the streets on garbage day looking for "opportunities". He picks through everyone's garbage looking for something he can make a profit on. It might be a worn out chair or table that he can refurbish. It might be an old TV he can sell at the local flea market. It might even be a bag of bathroom bottles with a full jar of deodorant. If I asked him why he does that, he would most likely say "I am here to make money." There are many ways to make money. It all depends upon what you are willing to do to make it.
As the saying goes, "One man's trash is another man's taco."

We all have different standards and goals. I try not to be judgmental and if they feel they get a benefit from it, more power to them. I also have the right to think it's gross to eat tacos out of the trash, even if it doesn't make them less of a "good person" in my eyes. And of course, there are consequences that shouldn't be ignored. But for some people, they are perfectly content. Their life is not my life. They can choose what they want.

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FloridaPhil wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:18 am
Jstark wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:29 pm
The hell with "casino experience" or "entertainment." I'm there to make money.
There is a guy in my neighborhood who cruises the streets on garbage day looking for "opportunities". He picks through everyone's garbage looking for something he can make a profit on. It might be a worn out chair or table that he can refurbish. It might be an old TV he can sell at the local flea market. It might even be a bag of bathroom bottles with a full jar of deodorant. If I asked him why he does that, he would most likely say "I am here to make money." There are many ways to make money. It all depends upon what you are willing to do to make it.
You said, "There are many ways to make money." You would be correct. But this is just one way. There are many other ways to skin a cat or casino as well. Don't get upset because some people know how to get PAID to do the same thing that you're PAYING for. In other words, it's like you INSISTING on paying $20 when buying something when that same place is paying us $20 to take same item.

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Eduardo wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:41 pm
In passing, sure. And if someone next to me got up and there were a bunch of multipliers left there, I wouldn't feel bad about playing the next hand out either. I'm not against the principle of it. But just standing around looking creepy and waiting for these opportunities would never suit me. You see it all the time and never once have I thought "hey, that looks like it would be a good use of my time." It's more like "Man, I wish that guy would stop staring at me hoping I'm going to leave something here."

I can see why casinos would have them move along, and I think it has little to do with their "having an edge" on these plays. Someone is going to play that next hand with the multipliers and the casino really doesn't care who.
Yeah. Dont be a nuisance to or hassle other players.

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Post by FloridaPhil »

No one's upset. I just don't think pickup up garbage is worth my time.

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