Is that payback % adjustable.... I think so.

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pokeherguy
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Re: Is that payback % adjustable.... I think so.

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But ain't this more fun than discussing the same old boring thing. I love a good conspiracy theory whether its true or not.

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Well factor that in with the fact that two local casinos just laid of a nice % of their staff.  I mean how much can a handfull of employees really cut into the bottom line?  In this case to get a good look at a steak I'd rather stick my head up a bulls rear than to take the butchers word for it.  And just for giggles I'm gonna have to add up play (which i normally don't do) just to see if you get special aces 1 out of every 16k hands.  I have played enough that it should be relevant.
 
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Post by pokeherguy »

Tommy Boy, great movie. I suspect you are going thru something like myself. I mentioned before that I had a casino A and casino B experience. Without naming casinos is the place north or south of Tunica? At casino A I had a 10 year history of play with pretty steady results and no reason to complain. I lagged a bit behind on royals but all other paying hands were above or right on the expected number per hands played. At casino B I put together close to 2 solid years of play that produced terrible results. While I did hit 1 royal flush above the expected number I was badly off on all other paying hands. I kept expecting the numbers to even up but the bad play continued at a steady rate. When I say steady I meen it practicly became predictable. The funny thing about the royals was that 3 of them were dealt which seemed to be common for me at this particular location on all handpays. During all my play there I was never able to convert a full house into a quad either. But alas casino B is held to the same rules and laws as casino A so I have no choice but to consider it bad luck. I saw a few things during that time that made me scratch my head also. So believe me when I say I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

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Post by jm002546 »

 So how is it suggested the short pay is accomplished? The only way is to have a programmable RNG that will give non-random results.

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Post by Eduardo »

Well since the "tinkering with payback percentage" has been explained and was just a pay table change, this just seems silly now.

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Post by EDC1977 »

Well since the "tinkering with payback percentage" has been explained and was just a pay table change, this just seems silly now. Let us then reconfigure the question. Is it legal to tinker with the return of a class II since it's tied in to a bingo board? Just wondering since they're more slot machines than VP machines and aren't required to stick to a given paytable.

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Post by scorpio2 »

when you're going for tier qualification points,why does regular slots return 10-1,and vp only 5-1?

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Post by jm002546 »

 The hold on regular slots is mostly higher - say 8% vrs 4% for VP

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Post by EDC1977 »

There is no advantage play to slots and the payback percentage is worse, thus you have no advantage at all over a slot machine. Could you play a VP machine just hitting the play button all the time without holding anything? Then you would be playing a slot machine.

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Post by ginxxxx »


There is no advantage play to slots and the payback percentage is worse, thus you have no advantage at all over a slot machine. Could you play a VP machine just hitting the play button all the time without holding anything? Then you would be playing a slot machine.Isn't that how you're supposed to do it? 

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