Beginners Strategy

[shadowman]

I think I can find 10 play job with 9/6 pay table, so at least there is some game to play.
 
Without making this overly complicated, I think the following calculation might be helpful, as a starting point.
 
Using single play job game as representing the base volitility there must be some easy to apply formula to calculate how many dollars I need to invest, if playing this game for 10 hours.  From there, the volitity for 10 play job might mean that I need a 50% larger bank roll.
 
Then from there the volitility of playing each game from job to TDB might require 100% more bankroll.
 
So, if I start with $1000 for playing 10 play job, can I say that if I play all games equally within the 10 play format, that I need a bankroll of $2,000?
 
When you made your estimate of $1,000 was that based on me playing one dollar per credit?  At 25 cents per credit, the pay table will fall roughtly 2%.
 
My esitmate was based on 10 play at 10 cents a credit, or $5 per hand.
 
Which is worse?  to play a game with not enough bankroll, or to play a game with a lower pay schedule and a reasonable bankroll?
 
If I play STP doesn't that game return a higher pay back due to the bonus feature?  Or does this feature increase volitility, thereby forcing me to have a larger bankroll?


 
STP does increase volitility, but reducing the return of a game also affects bankroll quickly. Maybe this column will help.
 
http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/a ... ines-61089

[jim18]

The grocrowski  seems to be answering one of my questions.  Playing at the 25 cent level for 10 hours, job, 10 hands, seems to require a bankroll of no more than $1,000.  Under many situations, when you play at less than one dollar demonination the pay schedules suffer about 2 %.  Yes, there are some situations where you are not penalized for betting nickles or quarters, rather than dollars. At the casino I am going to, I recall that playing 10 play penalizes you for not playing dollars, while the STP on some machines does not penalize you for playing quarters. I have read many postings of people that did OK while playing poor pay schedules.  But I also realize that the people that take a bath at VP usually do not post their story. I agree that skill is relavent to VP success.  I realize that a poor pay schedule hurts your bankroll and increases the risk of ruin.  I have arrived at the conclusion that the most important factor is  to have the right size bankroll for whatever game/demonination/pay table that you encounter. In the long run the pay schedule and skill level will cause ruin for most players.  But in the short run, say 10 hours, bankroll, I think is the key to success. IF Grochowski can estimate the bankroll for playing 10 hands at different pay schedules, then why can't someone estimate the bankroll requirements for each game, given a number of variables.  Why does the casino industry not promote such knowledge in an effort to keep players coming back time after time? Lets see.  I spent hours studying Bob Dancer strategy cards, using his software, practicing playing the games, but I have no training in bankroll.  Is that the fault of the casinos or the experts that sell their knowledge?