Fiesta Rancho

[billryan]

Thank you. I'm headed downtown tonite to see Robbie Kreiger, from The Doors in a free show. I'll go collect a couple of cards afterwards.

[alpax]

At "Bastardo" today I witnessed the very first RF that I have ever seen hit there. A lady held 2 to the RF on a 7/5 DDB nickel machine and it hit. A few minutes later she hit a low quad with no kicker. Very surprised! As for me, I went through a $20 bill on a 8/5 nickel machine probably faster than if I were to have lit a $20 bill on fire and watched it burn before the flame went out. I give Bastardo no more of my money as of today. Right after that, my wife and I proceeded to go to MSS where at those coveted nickel 9/6 DDB machines I put in a $20 and quickly watched it go up to about $28. I then gave a $10 bill to my wife to play the machine next to me, and within a few minutes she hit 4AWK off of trip aces. My machine rollercoastered up and down for a few more minutes when I said that would be really cool if my machine hit one too, so both of us could get one, and a few hands later, bam! My machine hit 4AWK off a pair! And of course got the scratchers too for the extra buck.I should prolly start another thread for the awesomeness that MSS/ California Hotel & Casino are for VP!

Nice winnings! Even though you saw a Royal for the first time at Bastardo, I would still not play on the 7/5 DDB over the 9/6 DDB even if I knew I would get better luck on the 7/5 machine.

It is definitely worthwhile to have a separate thread for the Boyd downtown properties, as it seems like they are better for the nickel players than the Stations properties for the sub-100% payout games. Stations is superior for quarter option, there has to be a reason that the 99.8% bank is not mostly full.


There are intermediate values of the quarter scratch cards, as well. On my most recent visit, I received several $3 ones, I have seen $5 ones, and I heard from a friend of a $50 one he scored. However, I strongly suspect that about 95% of them are for $2.

If you add $2 (8 credits) to the payouts for the hands eligible for scratch cards, and analyse 8/5 bonus poker with the revised numbers, it comes out to 99.57&.

I may have asked this before but forgot what the response was, so pardon me for asking again. I was wondering when you play multi line games, do you get a card for all the quads you hit or just for the first one?

The Boyd non-downtown properties only count one for their Double Royal within a week promotion. They also make some multiline games ineligible for the promotion.

For the quarter scratch card, I think it might be better to play Jacks or Better with the minimum 8 quarter bonus. Not sure if MSS no mails players for trying that machine.

If 9/6 DDB is the best nickel game at MSS, I do not think the $1 card will provide as boost to the other games. The nickel scratch card probably has mainly $1 winners while the quarter and up ones vary more.

[onemoretry]

I may have asked this before but forgot what the response was, so pardon me for asking again. I was wondering when you play multi line games, do you get a card for all the quads you hit or just for the first one?

You do, in fact, get paid for each and every one. Having a dealt quad and getting three, five, or ten scratch cards at a time, builds your pile of them quickly.

I'm not sure how popular the promotion is with the casino cashiers. They have to verify each one, and when you show up with 30 or 40 of them, it takes a while to process.

[alpax]

[QUOTE=alpax]
I may have asked this before but forgot what the response was, so pardon me for asking again. I was wondering when you play multi line games, do you get a card for all the quads you hit or just for the first one?

You do, in fact, get paid for each and every one. Having a dealt quad and getting three, five, or ten scratch cards at a time, builds your pile of them quickly.

I'm not sure how popular the promotion is with the casino cashiers. They have to verify each one, and when you show up with 30 or 40 of them, it takes a while to process. [/QUOTE]

Nice to know that. If only one of them I counted, I was going to say that you cannot get the adjusted 99.57% return. As many times I've been to Vegas, there are always people hogging up the casino club booth trying to get every little comp they can squeeze, the lines move very slow so I think you should not be guilty of turning in dozens of scratch cards at a time.

I should have asked you on your trip report with regards to memorize all the possible penalty situations to get the full 99.166% return on the base game? If you have been playing 8/5 Bonus for as long as you've have and often, it would be quite beneficial. The basic strategy charts return 99.157% or so, but the biggest penalty situations are easy to understand, the high cards (lone Ace, lone Jack, or two high cards) vs the 3 card straight flushes, not so much.

[Sea Lion]

[QUOTE=Sea Lion]
The nickel cards are either $1 or $5000. The quarter and up are either $2 or $5000. You take them to the cash cage within 24 hours of getting them.
There are intermediate values of the quarter scratch cards, as well. On my most recent visit, I received several $3 ones, I have seen $5 ones, and I heard from a friend of a $50 one he scored. However, I strongly suspect that about 95% of them are for $2.

If you add $2 (8 credits) to the payouts for the hands eligible for scratch cards, and analyse 8/5 bonus poker with the revised numbers, it comes out to 99.57%. [/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying the quarter and up cards. A slot attendant told me that they were $2 cards and didn't mention the variations. That is really cool!

[Sea Lion]

Thank you. I'm headed downtown tonite to see Robbie Kreiger, from The Doors in a free show. I'll go collect a couple of cards afterwards.We were going to stop by for that show, but the thermometer in my truck read 110 degrees at 9:00 PM when we came up on the MSS going north on the 95 coming back from Sam's Town, so we passed on this. We saw him a few years ago at NAMM in Anaheim, and about 9 years ago, I got to hang out with him for about 45 minutes backstage before a show he did at Musicians Institute in Hollywood. The stories he had about Jim Morrison are pure gold!

[onemoretry]

I should have asked you on your trip report with regards to memorize all the possible penalty situations to get the full 99.166% return on the base game? If you have been playing 8/5 Bonus for as long as you've have and often, it would be quite beneficial. The basic strategy charts return 99.157% or so, but the biggest penalty situations are easy to understand, the high cards (lone Ace, lone Jack, or two high cards) vs the 3 card straight flushes, not so much.
I have a Dancer-Daily strategy card for 8/5 bonus poker. I try to adhere to the Advanced Strategy, which incorporates all the penalty card situations.

I almost always have it with me, and consult it when I feel unsure on a particular hold.

[alpax]

The Dancer-Daily cards are very sufficient and should get you near the 99.166% return. The cards are a supplement to the Winners Guides book which has every situation covered. Some lines of the card have refer to the Winners Guide noted on it.

The lone Jack or Ace versus 3 card straight flushes are a challenge to memorize. For those that do, they get the extra 0.002% return.