Martingale Strategy?

[Tedlark]

Not to pile on top of FP but did that newspaper employ editors or proofreaders? ADVERTIZMENT? Maybe I've been wrong all these years but I thought it was: ADVERTISEMENT?

So long for now.

[onemoretry]

Mr. Dancer wants this website to be an info commercial for his strategy products and services.  He will not tolerate anyone who disagrees with him. 
When I read this, one thought came to mind - What a crock!

[onemoretry]

You also know Mr. Dancer chose to make a negative comment about me when I had no way to respond. You have chosen to make many, many negative comments about Bob Dancer. Do you think he shouldn't retaliate?

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=onemoretry]You have chosen to make many, many negative comments about Bob Dancer. Do you think he shouldn't retaliate?
[/quote]Yes I do.  Everyone on this forum should have the ability to respond to any and all comments.  It's a good thing to have standards of behavior.  Personal insults and
inflammatory words should not be allowed.  Disagreements are inevitable
especially when someone makes unsubstantiated claims to do something only a few people have ever done.  Banning members because they disagree with another member or a sponsor leads members to think the website is taking sides.  Mr. Dancer's strategy creates winners.  Unfortunately, the winners are not players.  It benefits Mr. Dancer himself by elevating him to "Expert" status feeding his ego and his bank account.  It sells books, software and consulting fees. It benefits the gaming industry by perpetrating the theory that you an beat the casino with math and skill.  It promotes video poker which benefits game manufacturers and websites like the one we are on. What it does for players is give them hope.  They want to believe the casinos can be beat.  Anyone who tells them differently is an enemy even when their own results aren't what the strategy promises.   When it doesn't work out, they blame themselves.  Am I skillful enough?  Am I as intelligent as Mr. Dancer?  Am I playing the right games?  Should I bet bigger or hang in there longer?  Maybe I should move to Vegas?   They question everything except the strategy itself because they want it to be true.  In the meantime the industry and Mr. Dancer profits.I will give Mr. Dancer credit for enlightening us to the value of comps.  Comps are given to players to entice them to play longer and bigger.  Using his strategy will allow you to play more hands which gives you more chances at a jackpot and increases your comps.   It does not now or ever will guarantee you will be a long term winner.This is a fine arrangement which I have no problem with.  As long as players understand the motivations behind this strategy, it's fine.   What I have a problem with is banning members because they point this out.   Note: Sorry about the occasional misspellings.   My phone doesn't always get this right.

[mdmick67]

[QUOTE=FloridaPhil]
Mr. Dancer wants this website to be an info commercial for his strategy products and services.  He will not tolerate anyone who disagrees with him. 
When I read this, one thought came to mind - What a crock![/QUOTE]If you go on the web and look for How To Win At Video Poker you will find all kinds of web sites and people marketing their programs, like the medicine men of old.  This is what always comes to mind when someone mentions Bob Dancer. How do you think these people support their VP play?  This is how and only how they win at Video Poker. All the crap they are peddling about how to play perfect to the math plus adding in all the comps you receive will make you a winner is just a bull crap. (A Crock)

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=mdmick67]All the crap they are peddling about how to play perfect to the math
plus adding in all the comps you receive will make you a winner is just a
bull crap. (A Crock)[/quote]I don't agree with this choice of words.  Math based VP strategy attempts to apply logic to an illogical series of events.   If the games are random like I believe, there will always be winners and losers.  Attempting to correlate computer simulations with real world VP play is one thing.  Promoting a strategy that promises the simulation results will apply to the machines you play while you are playing them is "marketing", not math based fact. There is no need to denounce anyone for their marketing as long as it is identified as such.   I have long said that VP strategy books and software should come with the warning "Individual Results May Vary".   Just because one in a million players may have sucess does not make it universally useful.  The only way to guarantee you will beat the casino is to never go in or leave as a winner and never return.

[onemoretry]

All the crap they are peddling about how to play perfect to the math plus adding in all the comps you receive will make you a winner is just a bull crap. (A Crock)When you refer to comps, are you referring just to things like rooms and food, or are you including cashcack, slot play, etc.?

Even ignoring those items, I would note that by the end of this year, I, and my wife, will have flown from Buffalo to Nevada and return, five times. Our total outlay for air fares and approximately 50 night's accommodation will have been ZERO.

Are you seriously suggesting that we should totally ignore that fact in assessing the outcome of our play for the year?   

[onemoretry]

  Mr. Dancer's strategy creates winners.  Unfortunately, the winners are not players.  It benefits Mr. Dancer himself by elevating him to "Expert" status feeding his ego and his bank account.  It sells books, software and consulting fees.........
And, the beat goes on. It seems that you just can't stop yourself.

[New2vp]

Thanks, Webman, for trying to improve the discourse on the forum.  You are extremely tolerant ... and sometimes that means the rest of us have to tolerate *** The opinions expressed on this forum that are those of the
authors and realize that they do not represent the official position of Action Gaming,
Inc. *** and sometimes are inane.I understand that "attempting to dominate the chat with nonsense ... will invite administrative action. In
this case, [you] reserve the right to make a subjective call and warn
and/or ban the offending user."I would prefer that there be extra consideration when the "nonsense" is seemingly endlessly repetitive!  But I realize that is just my opinion!I get that "Your free expression here is not protected by the
Bill of Rights since VideoPoker.com is not a government-controlled
institution." Keep on keepin' on!!

[New2vp]

Math based VP strategy attempts to apply logic to an illogical series of events.Statements like this do not help your side of the debate.