simple question for rolan

Discuss proper hold strategies and "advantage play" and ask questions about how to improve your play.
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royal flush
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Re: simple question for rolan

Post by royal flush »

go to phoenix and sell it to rob so you can chase your losses

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Post by Eduardo »

rolan, what you just described is this simple: Play a higher denomination, and either run out of money faster or win bigger.
 
Duh.
 
I have a ESTS for you (even shorter term strategy): Just play the highest amount instead of stepping up. Play some $25 video poker and have fun. You won't even need a quad to reach your cash out point. Look at how I got my first royal and then cashed out... 50 play quarters. I had never tried it before, but from my experience, it seems to work every time.

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Post by cddenver »

Look at how I got my first royal and then cashed out... 50 play quarters. I had never tried it before, but from my experience, it seems to work every time.
 
You've been so very modest in this thread of not comparing your 100% session winning percentage on your 50-play system to rd's measly 80%.  When can I arrange some personal training?

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Post by Eduardo »

Well, cd... I have some strategies that have worked 100% of the time and some strategies that unfortunately worked 0% of the time. It would be foolish to think of these strategies in long term contexts when we live in the short term. If you do what I did when I won, you will win 100% of the time. if you lose, it means your strategy was off somehow and you were playing a 0% strategy.


 
In fact, that is the name of my strategy now: The Eduardo HPC (hundred-per-centavo). If you play right 100% of the time, every cent will eventually turn into 100 bucks. If you do it just right. Just don't be an idiot and lose by slipping into the Eduardo ZPC. Basically, in the HPC you double your money every time you play, or better.

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In fact, that is the name of my strategy now: The Eduardo HPC (hundred-per-centavo). If you play right 100% of the time, every cent will eventually turn into 100 bucks. If you do it just right. Just don't be an idiot and lose by slipping into the Eduardo ZPC. Basically, in the HPC you double your money every time you play, or better.
 
Well, it sounds like a simple enough strategy for me to handle, since all that's required for success is good luck at the proper time.  I think that if you double the denomination played you'll be able to improve that winning percentage and only have to play half as much.
 
I wouldn't be too concerned about the Eduardo ZPC; those numbers can be considered AP and used for comparison purposes.  Be sure not to get too many actual sessions in with The Eduardo HPC so that you can continue to project your current good results over longer term play.

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Post by shadowman »

 
As for Shady Man's lack of understanding of Short Term Play let me REHASH why there HAS to be a BASELINE denomination...
 
In order to compare AP and STS properly you would have to take an AP player that has a $1000 bankroll to play on a .25 machine, and have an STS player that would take the same $1000 bankroll and "Start" at the same .25 machine.  THIS IS IMPERATIVE TO UNDERSTAND... The difference in the two approaches is that after losing a preset amount the STS player will jump to a higher denom.  If they are WINNING they stay at the same denom and WIN THE SAME AMOUNT if both are playing without mistakes a/o special plays.  There would not be a time when a JACKPOT is hit at a higher level than STS because the AP player would ALWAYS stay at .25.
 
The reason it is called Short Term Strategy is because a Short Term Player will go through his bankroll quicker than an AP player...BUT if a good hit is registered at any point after switching denom the STS player will BE AHEAD of the AP player simply because of value per credit.  If the STS player loses his $1000 he quits...The AP player at that point would still have money to sit and play and grind and HOPE to get a ROYAL to make him a winner for that session... Otherwise if he is down more than $500 any other hit will just bring him back a little so that he can sit and grind more and hope to finally get a Royal to make him a winner.   IT'S NOT A HARD CONCEPT TO UNDERSTAND THAT A STS PLAYER WOULD RATHER TRY FOR A SMALLER HIT AT A HIGHER DENOM AND BE SATISFIED WITH ANY PROFIT OVER $50 per session.



 
How many ways can roblandud spew nonsense? Is there any limit? It doesn't appear so. However, I think I've figured out how one must think in order to believe his STS provides an advantage.
 
You must prefer to win 70% of the time and lose $10,000 over wining 30% of the time and coming out $10,000 ahead. That appears to be roblandud's approach. I invite anyone who thinks that is a great way to gamble to follow his lead.

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Post by brmcc74 »

The bottom line is...........If you play less than 5 credits then you are already a loser. Its right there on the machine display.

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Post by janemichaels »

Wow, and I just wasted all this time when I could have been winning. LOL

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