RF On A MG Machine??????

[Eduardo]

Explain why in a five card deal, or draw, you will never see two cards of the same suit and denomination? 
 The conspiracy runs deeper than I thought.

[Frank Kneeland]

Backsider:  I want you to know that I just stood up and clapped at your response!  I am disabled as well, and at times life can be difficult and overwhelming.  It is for exactly what you posted the very reasons I play, and for hours and hours.  It takes me away from everything for a while, and all the noise and BS disappears.  I can relax, enjoy myself and don't care what anyone might say about my playing.  I call it my "therapy" sessions!!!  Best wishes to you and I hope 2012 brings you as much happiness as you can hold!  Keep on playing, sometimes the mere action of your eyes going from side to side will help you get tired enough to sleep too!  The act of gambling as a form of avoidance of one's troubles and a method of relieving dysphoric mood is well documented and considered one of the worst risk factors for serious gambling problems...since long term gambling tends to cause financial stress, which can aggravate life issues, creating a need for even more avoidance, which causes more problems, etc...This is considered one of the primary negative feedback loops that leads to the worst forms of pathological gambling...and the most dificult to treat becasue the patients primary coping mechanism is the problem. The very thing they do to relieve stress ends up causing more.Though I have read many, my favorite book to date, which covers this subject in great detail is: Best Possible Odds by William G. McCown. Pay special attention to the parts on coping mechanisms.I strongly suggest you read this book, or one like it, before offering advice on gambling to anyone, including yourself. What you have said here is exactly what doctors and psychologists are saying is the worst thing you can do.It is precisely the same issue as people that drink to forget their troubles and with similar consequence. Gambling as a way to increase one's fun is fine for most. Gambling to escape one's troubles is universally a very bad idea.Please note: This is not my opinion, I'm paraphrasing directly out of books I've read on gambling problems. You can disagree, but you won't be disagreeing with me, you'll be going against the entire psychological community. This is not something you should post about without proper research. I did three years of psych research before writing my two chapters about gambling psychology. And I continue to keep up on the subject to this day. I just finished the 2011 book, Treating Gambling Problems. I understand that if you have not read similar material you'd have no way to comprehend how serious this is, so if you aren't going to read up on this please try to take my word for it.~FK

[mightwin]

 [/QUOTE]I think the more appropriate watch metaphor in this instance would be:A person with one watch always knows the time. A person with two is never sure...I find it interesting that you correlated gambling to a choice in beverages, because the former is something ruled by math, whereas the latter is non-mathematical and governed only by personal choice. They are not similar situations and using similar logic to imbue gambling with personal choice is in my opinion, a huge mistake. My idea wasn't to compare gambling to beverage choice.   Also, neither Coke or Pepsi are considered to be dangerous and addictive.I believe people CAN become addicted to the sugar rush from either drink.I think it is dangerous to trivialize gambling decisions to pure choice when in gambling there really is only one right way to play (if making money is your goal).Of course people then whip out the argument, "But I only play for fun!" And then, if you question them they define "fun" as "Winning". And then if you question them further, you find they have redefined, "winning" as well.Other people posting in this forum remind you (Mr. Kneeland) that they do play for fun.  You've already pointed out the definition of winning in people's minds may not be the correct dictionary definition.   The choice is not between Coke & Pepsi. The choice is between Coke and Arsenic laced with LSD & PCP,  One can choose a pleasant beverage, or poisoning themselves with self deception and hallucination.My ultimate choice would be diet coke - with magic mushrooms - the casino carpet would really look fantastic. If you go to just one GA meeting in your life you'll understand the seriousness of this situation. We really aren't talking about soda pop preference.Please when you post about gambling choice try to think beyond what works for you and understand that it's not simply fun entertainment for everyone. It may well be nothing but "fun" for you, but you aren't the only one reading your posts.[/QUOTE]  I do not remember including any gambling advice in my post.   By the way, I'm very aware that I'm not the only one reading posts up here. My GOAL was to lighten the mood in this topic. My POINT was everyone's got an opinion.  I wasn't trying to prove which was correct, or agree or disagree.  I was trying to say it's ok to have a conversation, say your opinion, and go on hopefully.   The RNG/rigged topic has been beaten beyond death in many different posts.  The personal attacks have become downright nasty in this post. To all reading - please accept my apology - for me voicing my opinion that you might not agree with.

[Frank Kneeland]

In response to LonesomeDove's post I've decided to preempt my upcoming article in BJI and instead do a by-text interview with Dr. William G. McCown on problem gambling prevention. I intend to pose a specific question on why people gamble and the dangers of gambling to numb out as LonesomeDove described. I just spoke with Dr. McCown and he's agreed to do the interview.So in one month's time we can get the answer to this straight from one of the top researchers in the field today. Dr. McCown is currently Dean of the University of Louisiana at Munroe and has ten books out on addiction related psychology.I simply felt this was too important for anyone to have to hear it from me, since I am not a doctor. Sure I've read some books, but for something like this I'd prefer you got the information first hand.I will repost the pertinent parts of the interview here for those of you that don't get the BJI.Sincerely,Frank Kneeland

[Frank Kneeland]

 To all reading - please accept my apology - for me voicing my opinion that you might not agree with.No accept mine. I saw linking gambling and beverages as a really bad correlation because beverages obviously aren't as dangerous. I'm sorry if my reply was too confrontational.This whole thread has gotten way to serious, you were right to try to inject some humor. Usually that's my line. I just finished a book on gambling addiction and going with a friend to a GA meeting, and it's all fresh in my mind. It's hard for me to find humor in anything at the moment, but that's my problem not yours. For years I had thought of gambling as nothing more than a boring job. Now that I've seen what it's done to others I'm in appalled mode. Sorry again.I'm going to bail out of the thread at this point and I look forward to posting my interview with the Doc in three weeks...

[RandyMcspad]

I know I'm late on this thread but... 
 
The answer to ALL of the questions is LUCK!  
 
In the immortal words of Inspector Harry Callahan: 
 
" I know what you’re thinking: “Did he draw four cards, or five?” Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I’ve kinda lost track myself. But being this is a 10/6 DDB with the most powerful RNG in the world, and should pay 100.07%,  you’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Do I feel lucky?” Well do ya, punk? "

[Galeygoo]

Hahahahahahahahahahaaa

[sherrell_b]

Years ago I went to slot repair school and was told that if you want to play a machine to play VP because there is one thing that can't be programmed into those machines...THE HUMAN ELEMENT. Perfect example: I was once dealt 2 10's, J of spades and 2 other cards. Hating 10's I tossed them and kept the J of spades and drew the other 4 for a royal. Cha-ching! $4000! HUMAN ELEMENT! Choice I made, not the machine.

[Frank Kneeland]

Years ago I went to slot repair school and was told that if you want to play a machine to play VP because there is one thing that can't be programmed into those machines...THE HUMAN ELEMENT. Perfect example: I was once dealt 2 10's, J of spades and 2 other cards. Hating 10's I tossed them and kept the J of spades and drew the other 4 for a royal. Cha-ching! $4000! HUMAN ELEMENT! Choice I made, not the machine.Ahh, but here's the question...You are but one person that had a positive result making this draw out of how many out there that have done similar things and not gotten a positive result?In order to know, using statistical summation, how the world is doing on this draw and if it is a good idea, we need to hear from all the people that didn't get Royals doing the same thing you did. Why aren't they telling their stories as well??? Oh wait, because not getting the RF wouldn't be interesting or memorable. Heard people say, "winners write the history books", this is a similar phenomenon.If you ask someone, what the chances are of getting hit by lighting, that's still smoking from a strike, the answer is always 100%...even though the real odds are closer to 1 in 3 million.In the cognitive sciences this is known as base rate neglect, and informational & outcome bias.~FKP.S. Out of curiosity was that the only time you have ever made that draw in your entire life? And if not, how are you doing overall on all the other times you've ever made it? 

[OTABILL]

The other day at the casino, wife and I sat down next to a guy who was playing totally the opposite of any rationale system. My wife said he was crazy. However,he threw away a pair, kept a solo 4 and hit 4 sevens. He hit a number of 4 of a kinds where he threw away paying pairs, such as Kings, keeping small pairs. He came out ahead. Shows that for all the math, one can get lucky in the short run.