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[FloridaPhil]

[quote=billryan]Ever try using logic or congeniality on a mule?
Best way to reason with a jackass is with a two by four.
[/quote]Suit yourself.  If you want to be the troll of VideoPoker.com,  go for it.

[billryan]

Your permission is so appreciated, Princess.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=BobDancerJr]Your permission is so appreciated, Princess.[/quote]You are welcome. 

[gregorio]

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[quote=gregorio]So why is it so stupid????It's not stupid, it's illogical. There is no "up side" for a casino to rig a VP machine and plenty of "downside".   The vast majority of these games are negative, so the house already has a built in profit.  Add the fact that 99.99% of humans make errors (taking into consideration those that think they don't), plus those that don't know, can't or won't play with computer perfect strategy and you have at least a 10% house edge.  Creating software that could turn VP jackpots on and off would be an expensive and formidable task.   It's not worth the investment it when all they have to do is put the games on the floor and players will play anything with a jackpot no matter how rare.If you honestly believed VP machines are rigged, would you play them?  I surely wouldn't...  










[/QUOTE]Hi Phil. I've been playing VP for many years and, contrary to what Billy suggested, I am no fool. So unless my Video Poker IQ goes down the more I play, I am truly convinced the game is not fair any longer. You can't possibly think it remained the same in the last 10 years or so. I know it's hard to continue playing a game if in the back of your mind you suspect rigged, therefore some hardcore ( perhaps addicted) players reject the notion. But ask yourself why so many people lately are beating this "rigged" drum ??  Why?? If you can give me a reasonable explanation, I'd really appreciate it! [/QUOTE]


You continue to play a game you insist is "rigged" and then argue you are no fool.
I am no fool. I am addicted like the rest of you. I am independently wealthy and play purely as entertainment knowing fully well machines are not fair.
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[gregorio]

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But ask yourself why so many people lately are beating this "rigged" drum ??  Why?? If you can give me a reasonable explanation, I'd really appreciate it! I'm not so sure that it's "so many". There does seem to be a small handful of folks on this site that feel that way, but relative to the hundreds of thousands of video poker players, that is hardly significant. [/QUOTE]A small handful? I beg to differ. There are certainly more people complaining then people showing off their latest jackpots. And the people that don't complain are the degenerate gamblers who can't face the truth! If you think it's only a small handful of folks, why don't you go to the VP section of any casino and randomly ask folks what they think, you'll find out it is the vast majority who thinks games are rigged.

[FloridaPhil]

My experience over the past ten years has been to see VP odds dropped wholesale across the country.   We travel a lot and check with VPFree2.com often.   It's now very hard to find a 99%+ VP game unless you play dollars or more.  These high denomination games are bait and switch as the fact is the bigger you play the more you are likely to lose.  In addition, many players have been drawn to video poker because they have been lead to believe VP is beatable.   Having someone tell you they made millions playing VP and you can't even break even is disheartening.   On top of that these same "winners" respond by saying you don't win because you aren't as smart or disciplined as they are.  In the mean time VP millionaires are now reduced to hawking $50 software and teaching free classes in the back of a casino.  In my view this is a major cause of player disappointment and why there is so much grumbling.Big VP profits may have in fact existed 15 years ago.  Sure you may still make a few quarters if you live in Vegas and play only full pay games, but by in large big time positive opportunities are a thing of the past.   The best you can hope for is to stay in some nice resorts at a discount or play VP as a cheap video game.   In my view the secret to being happy in today's VP world is to keep your expectations low, play small and just enjoy the experience of playing the game.   Players don't want to hear this because the hope of winning big is why they gamble in the first place.  Casinos don't like it because it reduces their profits.  If you believe you are going to beat today's games consistently, you are going to be severely disappointed.  The games aren't rigged, the marketing is....

[paco13]

I agree with Phil. It is the pay schedules and the reduced comps/points earned playing VP that have hurt our chances of "winning". As an example, The casino I frequent most had 10/6 DDB a few years back. It was downgraded to 9/6. This significantly hurt my play as well as my earned credits due to reduced hands played. A BR that used to give me a good days play now vanishes in a couple hours. The chances of a jackpot are now greatly reduced because I often go bust before they come. Increasing the BR is the only way to stay in the game so even when they do come the casino is still ahead.
No "rigging" of the machine required.

[gregorio]

Ever try using logic or congeniality on a mule?
Best way to reason with a jackass is with a two by four.Looks like billryan is the real jackass here. Only jackasses berate others without an iota of explanation of why they disagree. Not a big surprise though: Jackasses are one of the most primitive creatures on the planet!

[gregorio]

Anyone here knows which gambling property in the US  collects the single  largest  gross slot machine revenue? The highest  in the US.  Bet you didn't know it is Resort World New York Casino, a server-based Class II racino controlled by the NYS Lottery Dept. It is the highest grossing in the US!!!!!  Think about it. Higher then Vegas MGM and Belagio, Higher then Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun. And I don't mean higher by a thread.  Other big ones are not even close. So you don't think all the "conventional" casinos took notice of this new gambling model that generates this kind of revenue! Well, think again. I believe most of the casinos now are now server based "racinos" with a  casino marquee! . No, the genie doesn't come out and change your poker hand at Borgata, but it sure feels like a racino every time i play.

[onemoretry]

A small handful? I beg to differ. There are certainly more people complaining then people showing off their latest jackpots. And the people that don't complain are the degenerate gamblers who can't face the truth! If you think it's only a small handful of folks, why don't you go to the VP section of any casino and randomly ask folks what they think, you'll find out it is the vast majority who thinks games are rigged. Differ all you want. The fact is that it is an extremely small number of people doing all the shouting. I do not believe that seeking out the opinion of most of the VP players I've observed in casinos would add a whole lot to the debate.

A large number of these players don't have two clues to rub together. They do not understand the differences between games, nor do they know how to pick the game that affords them the lowest cost of playing. And, if by chance, they do find the best game, they play it poorly. This is not a group that I would rely on to have an informed opinion about whether or not the games play fairly.

All that said, there is a significant number of informed, competent players who do not share your beliefs.   I doubt that very many of them would appreciate being referred to as degenerate gamblers. In fact, what could be more degenerate than continuing to play a game when you sincerely believe it's rigged against you?