Martingale Strategy?

[New2vp]

C'mon guys, stop giving Phil a hard time.  Maybe Phil would agree to stop his one-person "responsible gambling" campaign if Bob agrees only to post in a place that has a link "to promote responsible gaming for ... the public at large,
and to support those agencies and programs committed to researching,
preventing and treating problem gaming."  Oh, that's right.  It is at the bottom of every forum page!!Phil, I guess you can stop posting those warnings now. 

[FloridaPhil]

I'm not on some moral campaign against professional gamblers and I could care less how someone else makes their living.   When I am asked a question, I will give you my answer.  If you don't like my answers, don't ask.   As long as we don't read any more articles about how we should be happy if our daughters want to marry a professional gambler, I'm done with this subject.

[billryan]

If Phil doesn't continue his ridiculous campaign with its ever shifting goal, just what would he have?

[FloridaPhil]

I agree.  It seems like no one ever wants to talk about VP on this forum anymore.   There is no need to discuss my past differences with Bob Dancer any further.   That's history.  Unless someone wants to drag it out again, let's move on.

[Eduardo]

If your son or daughter was an AP, would you be proud of it?  Would you write all your friends and tell them about his latest $100,000 Royal Flush?  How about putting a picture of him next to a slot machine in your Christmas cards?


I have done some calculations and I've determined that I am at least
99.87% more likely to share my kid's $100,000 Royal Flush in a Christmas
card than I would be sharing their single coin royal flush on the way
to self-proclaimed inevitable losses.That means it would take a
free dinner to get me over 100%... and I've been invited to
Thanksgiving!  Merry Christmas, everyone!

[Vman96]

[QUOTE=FloridaPhil]


<span ="st"="" -hveid="108" -ved="0ahUKEwis8ti22M3XAhVGTCYKHe5FBe8Q4EUIbDAN">If your son or daughter was an AP, would you be proud of it?  Would you write all your friends and tell them about his latest $100,000 Royal Flush?  How about putting a picture of him next to a slot machine in your Christmas cards?</span>


I have done some calculations and I've determined that I am at least
99.87% more likely to share my kid's $100,000 Royal Flush in a Christmas
card than I would be sharing their single coin royal flush on the way
to self-proclaimed inevitable losses.That means it would take a
free dinner to get me over 100%... and I've been invited to
Thanksgiving!  Merry Christmas, everyone!
[/QUOTE]

99.87%? Is that optimal 10-line 9/6 DDB Ultimate X return? And no I didn't look that up ahead of time...

[New2vp]

Vman, that $100,000 Royal would work with quarters on the game you suggested.  This would happen with a dealt royal following a dealt flush that gave all 10x multipliers to all 10 lines!4000 coins x 10 lines x 10 multiplier = 400,000 coins = $100,000Edit:  And it wouldn't even have to be max coin!!  Of course, it wouldn't work with single coin.  But it could be a vultured royal, using only 5 coins per line instead of 10 coins! 

[FloridaPhil]

Here's the Christmas dream I have.  It's just as likely.  I walk into the high limit room.  I pull one lonely $20 bill out of my wallet and play single coin $5 deuces wild.  The game takes off and I hit the max coin button.  The next hand I hit a quad deuce for $5,000.  While I'm waiting to get paid, I switch to $10 max coins and hit a royal for $40K.  The girl comes back and I take a shot at a $100 machine in the back.  Damn!  Another single coin quad deuce for $20,000.  I'm up $64,830.  At this point my wife grabs me by my shirt and drags me out of the casino.   If my dream never happens, I lost $20 bucks.  If I had played max coins the whole time, I would have won $145,000 playing by the math.  However, I also could have easily lost three times that much trying.  How much you lose between wins matters unless you are one of those players who only talks about winning.  Of course non of this makes any sense according to the math.  I prefer to limit my loses and take my chances with luck.  There is no guarantee either way.  I am not telling anyone to play like I do.  I am telling you not losing is personally more important to me than the possibility of winning.  You can be optimistic and play by the math.  It doesn't work for me.  It may work for you.

[onemoretry]

You can be optimistic and play by the math.  It doesn't work for me.  It may work for you.
There's no "may" about it, as far as I'm concerned - it definitely works for me.

[billryan]

Seventy years and he thinks math may work.
Nuff said.