How does RNG work in 3/5/10 play?

[tech58]

ALL casinos in Michigan, including Native American, are Class III. None are Class II.

Thanks JS you have obviously been there. I have been in maybe 8-10 Indian casinos in Michigan and they are all Class III. Soaring Eagle and Saganing are not regulated by the State of Michigan. Not sure of others.

Only the 3 Detroit casinos are regulated by the State (Michigan Gaming Control Board).

About two years ago I talked directly to someone at that Board. That is what he told me also. He said at one time, when Indian casinos first opened in Michigan, there was a negotiated compact and they did regulate them but, as a provision of the compact that existed at the time, the State agreed to not allow regular commercial casinos in the State. When the 3 Detroit casinos were approved the compact was voided and does not exist (making it very tough to read by the way). Negotiations have not led to a new compact and may not even happen anymore.

[Tedlark]

So I guess the most recent Compact, the 2007 Compact between the State of Michigan and the Match-E-Be-Nash-She-Wish Band of Pottawatomi Indians, also known as Gun Lake Tribe is a figment of my imagination?

The below is taken right from the State of Michigan Gaming Control Board website, as of today:

Tribal Casinos
Native American tribes are sovereign nations. As such, the State of Michigan does not have general regulatory authority over tribal casinos. Instead, they are regulated by the National Indian Gaming Commission and the government of the appropriate tribal community.

The State of Michigan does have oversight authority over compliance with the Tribal-State Class III Gaming Compacts. The compacts are written agreements between the tribal communities and the State and signed by the Governor. The Governor assigned the MGCB staff responsibility for auditing compliance with compact provisions. The five-member Board has no involvement with tribal casinos.

[Tedlark]

By the way; I didn't find it very tough to read.

[tech58]

Wrong again. Wrong casino. At least you are consistent.
The casinos we have been discussing have No compact therefor no State regulation.

[Tedlark]

The below listed Bands (and the casinos they operate) have Compacts with the State of Michigan:

Bay Mills Indian Community
Bay Mills Resort & Casino
Kings Club Casino

Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians
Leelanau Sands Casino
Turtle Creek Casino

Hannaville Indian Community
Island Resort & Casino

Keweenaw Bay Indian Community
Ojibwa Casino Resort
Ojibwa Marquette II Casino

Lac Vieux Desert Band of Lake Superior Chippewa Indians
Lac Vieux Desert Resort Casino

Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe of Michigan
Soaring Eagle Casino & Resorts
Soaring Eagle Slot Palace
Saganing Eagles Landing Casino

Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians
Kewadin Casino - Christmas
Kewadin Casino - Hessel
Kewadin Casino - Manistique
Kewadin Vegas Casino - Sault Ste. Marie
Kewadin Shores Casino St. Ignace

Little River Band of Ottawa Indians
Little River Casino Resort

Little Traverse Band of Potawatomi Indians
Odawa Casino Resort Peteskey
Odawa Casino Mackinaw City

Nottawaseppi Huron Band of Potawatomi Indians
Firekeepers Casino

Pokagon Band of Potawatomi Indians
Four Winds Casino Resort - New Buffalo
Four Winds Casino - Hartford
Four Winds Casino - Dowaglac

Match-E-Be-Nash-She-Wish Band of Potawatomi Indians
Gun Lake Casino

[Tedlark]

Those casinos above have Compacts with the State of Michigan allowing them to operate Class III gaming machines that are controlled by a random number generator, or RNG.

If someone is playing at a casino in Michigan NOT on the above list, that casino most likely operates Class II gaming machines.

Oh, and by the way, the sign that wildman took a picture of and posted here - is required to be posted in the casino under one of the terms of a Compact. Right down to the EXACT verbiage in the sign, along with the size the sign needs to be.

I needed something to do while waiting for my dinner to cool.

[Tedlark]

Oops, so there is no misconceptions - the 3 Detroit casinos all operate Class III gaming equipment.

[Jstark]

I can't think of any Class II operations, NA or Commercial, in Michigan.

[tech58]

Long delay in responding due to light dose of Covid, a fall putting my wife in hospital, new computer to replace dead one, and a Cruise.
Contacted MGCB to inquire as to why they previously told me that there was "no compact" with Soaring Eagle and Saganing.
I was told that most likely it was because their compact had expired in 2013. However, not mentioned during my previous call, section 12 of the expired compact calls for extension during renegotiations.
Board spokesman did not know if any talks were underway. He, not being a Lawyer, would not hazard a guess as to the legality either way.

My summation, and last word on this dead horse issue: Doesn't mean a pinch of sheit either way as long as I can still legally take their money.

[Tedlark]

My summation, and last word on this dead horse issue: Doesn't mean a pinch of sheit either way as long as I can still legally take their money.

If you want to use a Gaelic term it is cac.

Actually, your last word on this should be an apology to me but I will not hold my breath.