quick quads with a pair

[valden]

If you have a pair, for example - pair of eights, other three cards are 6,7,4. All different suits. Do you just throw them away as any one of them can ad to 8 with another card? Played tonight for half an hour and hit quick quads four times and four of a kind twice but still was down 700 and some odd points. This game can make your money go quickly. Still out as to whether or not I like it. Ilike that I have to think about it. Cannot go fast in this game.

[shadowman]

Yes, you throw them away when the pair is 5-10. If the pair is 2-4 you hold a lower card with the pair. If 2 of the other 3 cards add up to the same value as the pair (8862), then you keep all 4 cards.

[MikeA]

Yes, you throw them away when the pair is 5-10. If the pair is 2-4 you hold a lower card with the pair. If 2 of the other 3 cards add up to the same value as the pair (8862), then you keep all 4 cards.SM, If you have 442xx do you hang onto the deuce?  I've been tossing it because there are only 3 in the deck to hit instead of four.  I hang on to Aces and Threes with a pair of 4's though.Ironically, I hang onto an ace if I have a pair of 2's.  Logic tells me in that case, you already have 1/2 of a QQ pair and the only pair that can help with the ducks.I need to dig out my strategy sheet!

[shadowman]

No, you don't hold the 2. Ironically, as I was just reading over my post I noticed that I missed saying  ... except the 2 with a pair of fours.
 
Good catch.

[MikeA]

It's such an odd game!  I think 90% of the fun of it has been breaking it down into playable strategy.  I was very pleased to hear that later this year, a single line version will be hitting the floors.  I for one will be searching the casinos in Vegas for their appearance in either single or multi-line varieties!

[shadowman]

Don't get your hopes too high, Mike. I can just see casinos, thinking this is another gimmick game, putting in horrendous paytables.
 
I was walking through the Palms this week checking out some paytables. Much to my surprise I found they had my favorite game, OEJs. As I excitedly hit the touch screen icon I almost puked ... the paytable looked to be 96% at best.
 
Hopefully, this won't happen with QQs or it will never catch on.
 

[MikeA]

As I excitedly hit the touch screen icon I almost puked ... the paytable looked to be 96% at best.
 
Hopefully, this won't happen with QQs or it will never catch on.
 How many times?????   6/5 DDB.  7/5 JOB.  8/6 DB.  And the sad thing is that most people don't even bother looking!And, when you DO look...be careful!  I told you about the Security Cops at California Club cornering me.  Two of them!  I was walking through CC on my way to MSS and checked paytables downstairs before taking the escalator upstairs to the skywalk.  They converged on me at the top of the escalator, demanding my ID and made me stand there while they "ran a security check."  15 minutes later, they gave my ID back and told me I "looked suspicious" because I was punching buttons but never sitting or playing any of the machines.  I suspect that it was because I didn't look Asian enough!  But, I told them I "might" play the machines if they got some decent paytables!  They didn't have a clue what I was talking about, but they looked smug in that they had caused me inconvenience and hopefully embarrassment.  Inconvenience, Yes, but that crap doesn't embarrass me.  I've had it happen much more visibly than that when being backed off blackjack tables!

[marie meijer]

Casinos frown on public getting $ out of a machine they are not playing and feel it belongs to them and not a tourist. Guards are probably instructed to watch for this and you fit their profile using machine buttons. A guy walked along all machines in sight at MGM, Vegas, once and actually got small amount ticket out of machine next to me. I had not noticed money was in the machine and did not care. He was doing the same thing on his route another time, row after row. Apparently those small amounts added up and it was worth his while to spend his time that way. He did not look hungry or destitute. Huge media story re Greektown awhile back. Female Sr citizen had arrived on Sr bus and picked up a small coin left in the tray, before ticket out was installed. She was dismissed from the casino and had to wait outside on a cold bench until it was bus time. Law suit ensued and eventually she won. The entire episode was so petty considering the amounts a casino takes in, in a day! I am always amazed that a casino will risk negative press over a minor incident. Certainly not smart to mess with a Sr! Ever notice that casinos are full of senior citizens!

[cddenver]

Casinos frown on public getting $ out of a machine they are not playing and feel it belongs to them and not a tourist. 
 
I think that's an issue where there isn't an "industry standard" policy but something that varies from casino to casino.  Or, perhaps, city to city.  Many times over the years I've been sitting and playing, and a casino employee walking by has tapped me on the shoulder and pointed to a coin or coins on the floor or in a nearby coin tray, then walked away without saying a word.
 
The casinos here in CO are open 8 AM - 2 AM.  At least once a month as I sit down to play at 8:01 AM () I'll see the machine I want to play showing something like $0.15 in credits, so I just go ahead and take the ticket before I start playing.  The point being that the casinos here don't have employees doing walkthroughs and cashing out unused credits.
 
The first year I played I once saw a bucket of $1 tokens sitting on top of a slot machine that was not being played.  No one even playing in the area.  I played my VP for about an hour, and that bucket was still there.  I tried turning it in at a cashier's window in case someone came back to claim it - like a "lost and found" - but was told things weren't done that way.  So I put it back on top of the machine where I found it, waited another hour, THEN snagged it for myself.

[ginxxxx]

[QUOT Certainly not smart to mess with a Sr! Ever notice that casinos are full of senior citizens!
[/QUOTE]Whaddya mean, casinos are full of senior citizens?  And you're right...don't mess with 'em!ginxxx