How Long Has VP Been Declining?

[rayj]

I'm no VP high roller, but I remember being approached by casino hosts quite often when I visited Vegas (many years ago). I'd get coupons for free buffet's, even show tickets every now an then.

Since I am a Florida resident, I mostly visit the Indian casinos, and of course, there is no such thing
as a Casino host in the Seminole casinos.

We often go to Biloxi. It's the same thing.... But I noticed you have to be a high roller to get any attention there.

Isn't it us .25/.50/1.00 players that are making these casino's rich? At least that's what I thought?

[Tedlark]

I don't think the issue you described is necessarily restricted to video poker.

[dinghy]

Over the last 25 years or so, the industry has gradually adjusted rewards to recognize theoretical hold.

Originally, all machine games received the same benefits. If you played $10k coin-in, your rewards would total ~$150 for any game.

Today, some casinos have gone just about totally theoretical. Now they give maybe 30% of theo. So a $10k slot player will enjoy $300 in rewards, while a full-pay vp player receives $15.

It's probably true that the industry has lately cut back on overall rewards, but if you look at other forums such as VMB, slot players continue to collect very large incentives.

[rayj]

I'm not talking about player rewards. I'm talking about a casino host approaching you as you play.

[dinghy]

I'm not talking about player rewards. I'm talking about a casino host approaching you as you play.

I once asked a host how they decide which players to approach. She said she goes in alphabetical order.

Maybe they haven't gotten to the Js yet.

[onemoretry]

I once asked a host how they decide which players to approach. She said she goes in alphabetical order.

That's about as "logical'" as many other casino practices.

[Tedlark]

I'm not talking about player rewards. I'm talking about a casino host approaching you as you play.

I do know that the casino hosts at Harrah's Joliet are not there nearly as much as they were in the past. I used to get "greeted" by a casino host within minutes of inserting my players card into a machine but I cannot remember the last time a casino host came by to say hi. Then again, I have cut back how often I go. I don't even think there are any casino hosts on property after 10:00 pm.

[Diggla_P]

I know at my local casino in Columbus the paytables are so bad on the machines its like they either wanna fleece you or they don't want you playing at all - and forget about a host coming up to you if you're at a VP machine - lol although they are all curiously right by the Promotions area.

[abated]

I have been playing VP for awhile. The good pay table machines are declining for sure.

[Carcounter]

Really started back in the 2007/2008 recession