Making a living playing Deuces wild

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pokerpoke
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Making a living playing Deuces wild

Post by pokerpoke »

Hello all,
 
Do you think its possable making a living playing duecess wild or other V.P game. if so , what have been your expeiriances or stories you have heard.
 
 

oej719
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Post by oej719 »

Soore do I knows of peoples that makes 3-4 hundred dollars a year.

marie meijer
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Post by marie meijer »

Welcome with your very first post! Click on Forum Main and under VIDEO POKER, click on Video Poker Stories. 4th topic down "Video Poker for a Living" has interesting posts started by Keno3699 on 2-12. I enjoyed deuces wild for a long time. I revert back to it if my bank roll is running low or I need a change of pace. It seems one can play DW a long time on little $. Now I am having more fun with DDB and DB with their larger pays. I cannot count on video poker for a steady living. I consider it a very fun and profitable part time job, on better days. Wins help finance casino trips/frequent vacations and extras. IMO, it's best to diversify and learn several games "perfectly" so you can switch to a better pay table as one arises. 

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Post by rascal »

Full pay Double Bonus Duces Wild makes it possible to come out ahead under certain comp circumstances. Unfortunately, as with many games, it is almost impossible to find the paytables anymore, and if the paytables exist through fault or otherwise, then some dumb cluck advertises it on the Internet and before long it is gone also.
Casinos no longer offer gambling designed to allow careful students of the game an opportunity to come out ahead long term. Instead, they offer "entertainment" to the masses. Based on the earnings positions of the major casino chains, they must know what they are doing, but a loyal segment of their client base has been left behind. In years past, the players who came to the casinos for "entertainment" could pay for the serious students of the game to come out ahead. Now, everyone loses longterm. If they say they don't they are either very lucky or lying.
 
Can you argue with the position the casinos are taking today? I can't. I hold some stocks in some of the public casino corporations and they generally do very well. So, as I wrote, they know what they are doing and the masses are willing to play the game exactly as the casinos present it.

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Post by shadowman »

The first question you must ask yourself is how much am I willing to risk. There are games out there where you can win, including some deuces games. However, the edge is extremely slim and requires near perfect play to win. Since the edge is so slim you can only make a good living by playing high demons ($5 and up). This requires a rather large bankroll which eliminates most of us right away.
For example, a $5 Multi-strike, NSUD game that pays back 99.92% was recently available at Green Valley Ranch casino in LV ($100/hand). They were also providing a .7% CB promotion over 4 days which means the game had a potential of returning $300/hour. However, the majority of people who played the game over this 4 day promotion probably lost a lot of money. A few likely won really big sums of money. This is the environment you would play in if you wanted to make a good living playing VP.

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Post by cddenver »

Full pay Double Bonus Duces Wild makes it possible to come out ahead under certain comp circumstances. Unfortunately, as with many games, it is almost impossible to find the paytables anymore, and if the paytables exist through fault or otherwise, then some dumb cluck advertises it on the Internet and before long it is gone also.
 
I agree with everything you said.  I'll be a dumb cluck though and mention that one of the local casinos here in CO that I used to play at regularly has recently upped the paytables on some machines/games, which was a real eye-opener to me after watching paytables go the other way over the years.  Perhaps it's something that is being seen by players in other areas as well.  Competition for players?  More basic awareness among rank-and-file players?  Or as you mentioned, maybe just an "oopsie" by the casino. 

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Post by shadowman »

I think if you see a casino upgrade several machines then it is not a mistake. If you one machine in a bank then it may very well be a mistake. However, even if it is not a mistake the casino could be doing it as an experiment to see is it brings more play.

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Post by cddenver »

I think if you see a casino upgrade several machines then it is not a mistake. If you one machine in a bank then it may very well be a mistake. However, even if it is not a mistake the casino could be doing it as an experiment to see is it brings more play.
 
The pays were upped in all machines in a bank of four, and it certainly surprised me.  If the casino is trying it out as an experiment to see if they get more play, they certainly will from me.    I'll be hitting that place this week and I plan on doing a walkaround to see if they've raised the pays on any other machines.

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Post by jm002546 »


The first question you must ask yourself is how much am I willing to risk. There are games out there where you can win, including some deuces games. However, the edge is extremely slim and requires near perfect play to win. Since the edge is so slim you can only make a good living by playing high demons ($5 and up). This requires a rather large bankroll which eliminates most of us right away.
For example, a $5 Multi-strike, NSUD game that pays back 99.92% was recently available at Green Valley Ranch casino in LV ($100/hand). They were also providing a .7% CB promotion over 4 days which means the game had a potential of returning $300/hour. However, the majority of people who played the game over this 4 day promotion probably lost a lot of money. A few likely won really big sums of money. This is the environment you would play in if you wanted to make a good living playing VP.   But there are teams that will take over that machine for 4 days solid, I would assume.  Unless that was prevented by GVR in some way. That  could put about EV 30k in their coffers. That's what can happen on the good progressives, also.

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Post by Bonnie Jean »

I'm new at playing for fun at this site.  My favororite is 100 play double double bonus.  The five sit-down times I played I hit 7 royal flush's  Thats crazy.

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