Perfect Play???

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rayj
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Perfect Play???

Post by rayj »

You hear "Perfect Play" mentioned a lot..What exactly is the difference in out come if you do not have "Perfect Play"?I mean say you screw up a hand, will the lack of perfect play cost you a Royal during the same session? Or is it simply the highest return?

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First of all, no one can play perfectly. I prefer the terms 'expert play' or 'skilled play'.
 
The fact is skilled playing will have only small effects on most sessions. It's more like the effect of gravity. Only over time will you see a major effect. Gravity created the Grand Canyon by constantly causing water to flow. Skilled play creates winning players in the same manner.
 
 

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Post by cddenver »


You hear "Perfect Play" mentioned a lot..

What exactly is the difference in out come if you do not have "Perfect Play"?

 
There isn't any hard number that can be given to quantify misplays, but the fewer you make the better off you'll be.
 
I think there are actually two types of misplays.  The first would be true "oopsies" that come from playing too fast, or from fatigue, or from being distracted by the eye-level widescreen TV ().  In my case one I make now and again is holding one Ace, hitting Deal/Draw, then seeing a low pair that had been lurking in the shadows vanish from the screen.  I never misplay that when the single high card is J,Q,K - just the occasional mental "Duh" when I see that Ace.
 
The other type of misplay is the one that will cost you more over time.  That's when you THINK you're playing a dealt hand correctly, but you're really not.  Since that happens every time that particular dealt hand comes up, it's costing you more over time.
 
Suppose that you're an average-fast player getting in two hours a week of single line quarters play.  Over a year, your total play will work out to:
 
800 hands an hour * 2 hours * 52 weeks = 83,200 hands a year
83,200 hands * $1.25 a hand = $104,000 in total play.
 
Every 1% improvement in your game puts $1,040 in your pocket over the course of a year.  Investing $50 or so in a set of strategy cards, or VP software is a good thing to do - you'll easily recover that investment, and quickly.
 
Looking at the bigger picture - paytables, CB programs including bonus points days - will improve that 1% even more.
 
I'll admit that taking a "1% here, 1% there" approach isn't too exciting, but it adds up. 

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Post by EDC1977 »

Myself, I prefer to call it near perfect play or advantage play. Either way, you are ahead of the game as opposed to holding what you think are the right cards and tutorials will tell you otherwise!

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Post by Eduardo »

Messing up perfect play would only "cost you a royal" if you accidentally held 3 to the royal when a 4th card in the royal was showing. That's a mistake that cost you a chance, any way.
 
Playing off-strategy will give a lower return overall but you could also hit a big winner by doing so. It's just that in the long run, it's not the mathematically best way to play the game.

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Post by rfonlymama »

unfortunately, I have also seen the effects of gravity on my body over the years
 
 

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Post by oej719 »

unfortunately, I have also seen the effects of gravity on my body over the years
 
 

Please explain more for us that are infamiliar with the negativity of gravitail effects and its correlation with years.

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Post by shadowman »


I'll admit that taking a "1% here, 1% there" approach isn't too exciting, but it adds up. 
 
I know a guy who put around $25 million through the machines last year. He ended up ahead around 1%. That's a measly $250K ahead for one year. Of course, this was a good year, but I think it demonstrates just how important good strategy can be.

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Post by cddenver »


I know a guy who put around $25 million through the machines last year. He ended up ahead around 1%. That's a measly $250K ahead for one year. Of course, this was a good year, but I think it demonstrates just how important good strategy can be.
 
Two years ago I had a lifetime high of just over $1M in total play and thought I was pretty hot stuff (). 

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Post by Webman »

$1M in a year, cddenver?

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