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I usually play texas hold'em and craps but i've heard many great things about video poker through customers and want to give it a try. I'll be going to vegas at the beginning of the year and I would like to learn about the game as well as a few strategies. So any tips on where to start to familiarize myself with video poker? Also, would $100 bankroll be good to start out with for a $1 machine?
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marie meijer
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Welcome BarleyMob, Log on Wizardofodds.com for free practice on VP games. It's a tutorial and will let you know what you are doing wrong. Then practice your favorite games on this site. Stick to quarter play until you learn strategy and perfect your playing or with a $100 bank roll. After you hit a jackpot of sorts you can move up in denom and play on THEIR money. I need to take my own advice! Have a great trip!
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shadowman
- Video Poker Master
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- Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:42 pm
I think a reality check is called for.
Today I played one of highest return games around, full pay deuces wild. I played for one hour and lost $100. The other day I lost $240 in a little over an hour on the same game. OTOH, I've had 4 deuces yesterday and won $160 and a royal flush earlier this week for $1000 win. So, you can win quite a bit but you can also lose a lot in a short period of time. BTW, all of these sessions were quarters.
There are two kinds of bankrolls ... session bankrolls and the total amount you have to gamble. Most folks only consider session bankrolls since they have other jobs and have no real limit to their gambling funds (although a budget is a good idea). In order to determine your session bankroll you need to determine how long you want to gamble without losing your bankroll.
For me, on a typical day playing quarters I usually like to have around $500-$600 available. You will rarely lose this much if you're playing a good game, but you don't want to run out of money either. For a 3-4 day trip to LV you probably want between $1-2K to assure yourself you won't run out.
Many people prefer to carry less money and use ATMs. If you are disciplined this is not a problem. There may be substantial fees for ATM usage so you should understand that before using them.
Feel free to ask questions here. Lot's of experience to help you out.
Today I played one of highest return games around, full pay deuces wild. I played for one hour and lost $100. The other day I lost $240 in a little over an hour on the same game. OTOH, I've had 4 deuces yesterday and won $160 and a royal flush earlier this week for $1000 win. So, you can win quite a bit but you can also lose a lot in a short period of time. BTW, all of these sessions were quarters.
There are two kinds of bankrolls ... session bankrolls and the total amount you have to gamble. Most folks only consider session bankrolls since they have other jobs and have no real limit to their gambling funds (although a budget is a good idea). In order to determine your session bankroll you need to determine how long you want to gamble without losing your bankroll.
For me, on a typical day playing quarters I usually like to have around $500-$600 available. You will rarely lose this much if you're playing a good game, but you don't want to run out of money either. For a 3-4 day trip to LV you probably want between $1-2K to assure yourself you won't run out.
Many people prefer to carry less money and use ATMs. If you are disciplined this is not a problem. There may be substantial fees for ATM usage so you should understand that before using them.
Feel free to ask questions here. Lot's of experience to help you out.
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kjohn
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- Joined: Fri May 23, 2008 8:06 pm
Welcome to the fun game, VP !!!! You'll love it. If I were you I'd find
a nickel game and play that for awhile until you get the hang of it....You can
buy a CD http://www.bobdancer.com/shopdisplaycategories.cfm
from Bob dancer. Not cheap but it's good and you will learn to play correctly
which can save you money in the long run....I still play it sometimes just to be
sure I'm on track....I like the nickel triple play when I just want to relax and
not worry too much about money... Shadowman is correct, you can loose $100 in
minutes, not hours.....so be conservative and don't plan on getting
rich....
I'm heading to Vegas tomorrow and plan on taking around $600 a day to play
with. I keep my money separated with small paper clips in my fanny pack and
that helps me keep track of what I'm spending. It's easy to just keep dipping
into your purse until it's empty of everything except gum wrappers. I also
break my hundreds into $20 and $10 which make you more conscious of what you are
spending....DISCIPLINE is the name of the game. Don't worry too much about pay
tables right now. They do matter in the long run but for a few days in Vegas
just play and have fun.....I've hit royals on machines with terrible pay tables
and hit nothing on machines with great pay tables. Also, whatever denomination
you play ALWAYS play MAX credits.....Best of luck and welcome to VP....
a nickel game and play that for awhile until you get the hang of it....You can
buy a CD http://www.bobdancer.com/shopdisplaycategories.cfm
from Bob dancer. Not cheap but it's good and you will learn to play correctly
which can save you money in the long run....I still play it sometimes just to be
sure I'm on track....I like the nickel triple play when I just want to relax and
not worry too much about money... Shadowman is correct, you can loose $100 in
minutes, not hours.....so be conservative and don't plan on getting
rich....
I'm heading to Vegas tomorrow and plan on taking around $600 a day to play
with. I keep my money separated with small paper clips in my fanny pack and
that helps me keep track of what I'm spending. It's easy to just keep dipping
into your purse until it's empty of everything except gum wrappers. I also
break my hundreds into $20 and $10 which make you more conscious of what you are
spending....DISCIPLINE is the name of the game. Don't worry too much about pay
tables right now. They do matter in the long run but for a few days in Vegas
just play and have fun.....I've hit royals on machines with terrible pay tables
and hit nothing on machines with great pay tables. Also, whatever denomination
you play ALWAYS play MAX credits.....Best of luck and welcome to VP....
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jm002546
- Senior Member
- Posts: 398
- Joined: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:13 am
I usually play texas hold'em and craps but i've heard many great things about video poker through customers and want to give it a try. I'll be going to vegas at the beginning of the year and I would like to learn about the game as well as a few strategies. So any tips on where to start to familiarize myself with video poker? Also, would $100 bankroll be good to start out with for a $1 machine?
It would be good in limiting your possible loss. But a fast player at $5/handmight lose the hundred the first minute!
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Shiny
- Forum Rookie
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- Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:06 pm
I think a reality check is called for.
Today I played one of highest return games around, full pay deuces wild. I played for one hour and lost $100. The other day I lost $240 in a little over an hour on the same game. OTOH, I've had 4 deuces yesterday and won $160 and a royal flush earlier this week for $1000 win. So, you can win quite a bit but you can also lose a lot in a short period of time. BTW, all of these sessions were quarters.
There are two kinds of bankrolls ... session bankrolls and the total amount you have to gamble. Most folks only consider session bankrolls since they have other jobs and have no real limit to their gambling funds (although a budget is a good idea). In order to determine your session bankroll you need to determine how long you want to gamble without losing your bankroll.
For me, on a typical day playing quarters I usually like to have around $500-$600 available. You will rarely lose this much if you're playing a good game, but you don't want to run out of money either. For a 3-4 day trip to LV you probably want between $1-2K to assure yourself you won't run out.
Many people prefer to carry less money and use ATMs. If you are disciplined this is not a problem. There may be substantial fees for ATM usage so you should understand that before using them.
Feel free to ask questions here. Lot's of experience to help you out.
Are you of the school that when you hit quads or RFs you move up from quarters to dollars?
Today I played one of highest return games around, full pay deuces wild. I played for one hour and lost $100. The other day I lost $240 in a little over an hour on the same game. OTOH, I've had 4 deuces yesterday and won $160 and a royal flush earlier this week for $1000 win. So, you can win quite a bit but you can also lose a lot in a short period of time. BTW, all of these sessions were quarters.
There are two kinds of bankrolls ... session bankrolls and the total amount you have to gamble. Most folks only consider session bankrolls since they have other jobs and have no real limit to their gambling funds (although a budget is a good idea). In order to determine your session bankroll you need to determine how long you want to gamble without losing your bankroll.
For me, on a typical day playing quarters I usually like to have around $500-$600 available. You will rarely lose this much if you're playing a good game, but you don't want to run out of money either. For a 3-4 day trip to LV you probably want between $1-2K to assure yourself you won't run out.
Many people prefer to carry less money and use ATMs. If you are disciplined this is not a problem. There may be substantial fees for ATM usage so you should understand that before using them.
Feel free to ask questions here. Lot's of experience to help you out.
Are you of the school that when you hit quads or RFs you move up from quarters to dollars?
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damule
- VP Veteran
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- Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:59 pm
Shiny,
The difficult thing about moving up from quarters to dollars is most full pay machines (ie: full pay deuces and full pay DDB) are only single line quarters at Palms and Stations. I have never seen multi-denominational full pay machines. You'd most likely have to change machines and maybe even go up to $5. If anyone knows of casinos with full pay mult-denominational or full pay multi-line I'ld be interested in checking them out. And I'm not talking about standard JOB for 99.54%, it's too boring for my taste. I prefer Deuces and DDB.
The difficult thing about moving up from quarters to dollars is most full pay machines (ie: full pay deuces and full pay DDB) are only single line quarters at Palms and Stations. I have never seen multi-denominational full pay machines. You'd most likely have to change machines and maybe even go up to $5. If anyone knows of casinos with full pay mult-denominational or full pay multi-line I'ld be interested in checking them out. And I'm not talking about standard JOB for 99.54%, it's too boring for my taste. I prefer Deuces and DDB.
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MikeA
- Video Poker Master
- Posts: 1615
- Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:50 pm
Are you of the school that when you hit quads or RFs you move up from quarters to dollars?
There would be no mathematical advantage to be gained by doing this.
Whether playing blackjack or video poker, If I am "down" and lost it by playing at one denomination, my personal discipline is that if I recover it, I will recover the loss the same way I lost it...at the same denomination.
By the same token, I will continue to play either game at the same denomination if I am ahead at it.
There however, is one exception: If I am playing to accumulate CB points or comps, the highest denomination that I can muster will allow me to earn it in fewer hands assumming that the paytables are the same for video poker.
In Blackjack, you are not going to get much of anything other than a notation that you've played unless you are playing at a green or blackchip level....red chip players just get potentially minimum offers for discounted rooms. So, your question has a lot of validity if you are a comp-hunter and a blackjack player!
There would be no mathematical advantage to be gained by doing this.
Whether playing blackjack or video poker, If I am "down" and lost it by playing at one denomination, my personal discipline is that if I recover it, I will recover the loss the same way I lost it...at the same denomination.
By the same token, I will continue to play either game at the same denomination if I am ahead at it.
There however, is one exception: If I am playing to accumulate CB points or comps, the highest denomination that I can muster will allow me to earn it in fewer hands assumming that the paytables are the same for video poker.
In Blackjack, you are not going to get much of anything other than a notation that you've played unless you are playing at a green or blackchip level....red chip players just get potentially minimum offers for discounted rooms. So, your question has a lot of validity if you are a comp-hunter and a blackjack player!
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shadowman
- Video Poker Master
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- Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:42 pm
Are you of the school that when you hit quads or RFs you move up from quarters to dollars?
I try to play the highest denom I'm comfortable with at all times. In the casino where I was playing FPDW that was the highest denom available for that game. It was also the best game available. Any other strategy would lower my expected return over time.
Yesterday was a good example. I was playing $1 OEJs and hit some good premium hands right away (a straight flush on the 3rd hand started it). In less that 20 minutes I was ahead around $1000. I ended up losing for the day. However, had I started out at quarters that $1000 might have been $250 and had I switched at the wrong moment I could have lost an additional $750.
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cddenver
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- Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:54 pm
Are you of the school that when you hit quads or RFs you move up from quarters to dollars?
You're no more or less likely to hit any more quads or RFs at one denomination than another. Moving to a higher denomination can be very costly since it doesn't take much to play a $62.50 winner back in on dollar play, and quads are infrequent to begin with - about once every 400 hands, on average. For that matter, it doesn't take much of a dry spell to play that quarters quad back in even sticking with quarter play.
