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oej719
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strategy card question

Post by oej719 »

I have dancers BP and DDB strategy cards and have a question.
It has unsuited  AKQJ as one of the selections.
Does this mean 4 different suits or just 2 or more different suits?
 
Also: inside 4 card straight with 3 high cards is a selection from BP.
Can that only be unsuited T, J, Q, K, A (pick 4).?
 
Anybody care to take a shot at it?
Bob or Rob, or Linda
 

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Post by New2vp »

I'm not a Bob, Rob, or Linda, but here goes...
 
The answer is "more than one suit," whether there are two suits, three suits or four suits.  Of course, if three of the cards are suited together, you would never reach AKQJ because you would have stopped higher on the strategy card at a 3-card Royal Flush.
 
When you choose to hold AKQJ, you are giving up any chances at a flush, so it doesn't matter if you have two, three, or four suits.  All such holds are equivalent.
 
In both of the games that you cited, based on maximum average value, AKQJ is a better hold than QJ suited, which is the best 2-card Royal Flush; so AKQJ is also better than any other two suited high cards.
 
In full-pay Jacks or Better (full house = 9, flush = 6), sometimes QJ suited is better than unsuited AKQJ and sometimes it isn't.  The 5th card determines which is better.  If the 5th card is a 9 or is the same suit as the QJ, then the AKQJ has a higher average value.  Otherwise, the suited QJ would have a higher average value.  (If the 5th card is an 8 of the same suit as the QJ, then QJ8 suited is the best play.  And of course if the 5th card is a T or another J, Q, K, or A, the best play is a straight or a pair.  In all these cases, you would have reached that conclusion by seeing another hold higher on the strategy card than AKQJ unsuited or QJ suited.)
 
The 4 card inside straight with 3 high cards is similarly unsuited with the same definition for "unsuited" as was given above.  This hold must be one of the following four groups of ranks:  KQJ9, AQJT, AKJT, or AKQT.  Note that each has 3 high cards with a rank missing in the middle.

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Post by oej719 »

Thanks for your explanation. That makes it clear to me.

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Post by Eduardo »

Where do i get strategy cards? 

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bobdancer.com
 
And that is the undeniable truth

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Post by shadowman »

Where do i get strategy cards? 
 
There are many choices besides Dancer's website. Linda Boyd's book, The Video Poker Edge, has several in an appendix. There are also software programs that generate strategies automatically. One is called Video Poker Strategy Master (VPSM). Another program, called Frugal Video Poker (FVP), generates then as well. I also believe that VPfW provides them as well.
 
Or, to find other choices just do an internet search on "video poker strategy".

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Post by MikeA »

VPW does indeed generate the strategy.  Not only for each game, but also for each pay table.  You don't play 10/7 Double Bonus the same way as you play 9/6 Double Bonus.

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Post by shadowman »

VPW does indeed generate the strategy.  Not only for each game, but also for each pay table.  You don't play 10/7 Double Bonus the same way as you play 9/6 Double Bonus.
 
Absolutely! Almost any minor change in the pay table will impact the strategy. That is why you can't talk about a game without including the pay table as you did above.
 
Your reference to Double Bonus is one of the most significant ones. The change of the flush payout from 7 to 6 makes a big difference. Even the full house change impacts whether you hold only aces from a dealt 2 pair or both pairs.

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Post by Eduardo »

ok thank you.  i did find the "strategy" section in vp winners now but need to take some time to figure out what all these things mean! I am such a rookie

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Post by MikeA »

Well hang in there Eduarao.  Practice the hell out of your game on the simulators (on-line or those like VPW).  It's a lot cheaper to learn from your mistakes at HOME than it is in the casino!

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