$1 9/6 DDB Progressive

[RogerWaters]

I dont know much about odds and how to figure them, but I have been wondering about this game. It has been my favorite at the place I play for a while, and the other day I got rewarded pretty well. The game has 3 progressives, the royal, aces with kicker, and 2,3,4s with kicker. I cleared all of them last week and I got to thinking how big would the progressives have to be to take away the edge?BTW the royal and aces I hit were very nice. I got dealt aces 2x on one machine and missed the kicker the first and hit it the second time. I moved to another machine while I was waiting to be paid and about an hour later hit the royal holding just the J and K of spades.

[BillyJoe]

A 9/6 DDB is almost 99% return (98.961%) to start. The additional monies potentially collected from the progressive, plus any "comps" that you earn by playing, should make this a 100%+ game. For example, in "Video Poker for Winners", I made the RF 4500, the A/kckr 2500, and the TTF/kckr 850, to try and replicate what you may see in a progressive. The overall return was 100.037% at that level, without figuring any comps.
I hope this helps...    

[spxChrome]

Alot of depends on the rate of the progressive.  Was it a 2/3, 1/2 or 1 machine?  I know on a 2/3 machine which is what I mostly play the progressive needs to be around $5300.  Of course there are many other factors involved but thats when I get excited about playing it.

[RogerWaters]

Thanks for the responses guys. I have no where near the brain needed to play perfect strategy on DDB, but I think I do ok. I was wondering how good of a game I was playing because over the time I have been playing it I have been doing pretty well.....with comps thrown in of course. I am not sure how the money is put into the progressives, but I do know there is a fair share of blue hairs that dont play max credits. Also the machines are MD...but I have no clue if that adds to $1 progressives at all. I am not even sure why they have .25/.50 over there since they both have their own bank with their own progressives..

[spxChrome]

Just watch the progressive and see how much it moves for each max coin bet.  Then use that number to calculate the 1 in 40K of getting a royal and you will then know when its overdue.
 
Of course their are many other factors such as those one coin players and the whole random thing.  But its something.

[RogerWaters]

I guess I dont really understand the whole over due thing. If its random how can it be over due? Its a bank of about 16 machines, and while my own superstitions keep me from playing the machine I just hit a royal on, I know that it really shouldnt matter. Also I cant tell how the progressive works exactly as it seems to be moving even when I am not playing, which leads me to think that its also ticking up for .25/.50 play on those machines as well. I have walked around the bank just to see if I was the only dollar player and most times I am. The only time there seems to be any dollar players over there is the weekend because I never play on Saturday or Sundays but often times on Monday morning I can tell that there was a recent hit. Its funny but over the past couple of weeks outside of the weekend I am the only one thats hit those progressives.

[shadowman]

Congratulations on your good fortune. We all have the good runs and the bad runs. The game you're playing sounds pretty good but you really should work on playing as good as possible. There is an option to "test your skills" on the main page if you have gold membership. It can help you determine how well you play.
 
No machine is ever due. That is a myth.

[RogerWaters]

Thanks Shadow! I have been doing training for that game, but I know I am not perfect and may never be. I know that there are only a few people who probably are, so I am not foolish to think that I am special in that area. I thought the game was probably pretty solid though, and certainly decent for Illinois, so thats why I decided to stick to it. There is another bank of $1 progressives, but they are 9/5 with sequential royal paying 50k...The regular royal never exceeds $4800 so its a pretty busy game...why anyone would choose to play that just for a shot at a 1 in 4 million 50k payout is beyond me. Hell the extra coins on my machine will probably earn me 50k in royals before ever hitting that sequential.

[BillyJoe]

Roger, where in Illinois are you referring? I live in FL, but I travel up to Illinois to visit family often. I wouldn't mind taking a crack at a 9/6 DDB Progressive.  
BTW, I agree with Shadow in that there is no such thing as "due". What you often see, however, is that play on a progressive machine increases as the jackpot rises. The more players playing for it, the greater the likelihood that someone will randomly hit it.

[spxChrome]

Well the size of the progressive will determine your play as well.  If say its $12k then I am tossing a 3 to the royal flush.  Or even a straight flush.