When strategy isn't working...

[spxChrome]

After the chip changing at my local casino it just seems near impossible to win anything on VP.  My last 5 trips have all been bust with having to play out 4,000 to 6,000 hands each time just to get a quad and this is all on 10/6 DDB and 9/7 TDB.
So my last trip again I went 6,200 hands before I got my first quad.  And of course it was dealt 9's.  So that is about 30,000 hands with 11 quads 3 of which have been dealt.  And it is not just me its 4 of us that go on a regular basis.  We are all seeing the same, one of our group goes somewhere else now.  But, we have found a bank of VP at the bar that still uses the same chip no matter which denom.  But its hard to play as you are right under the band speakers, buttons stick, screens faded out.  Anyway decided to play it on my way out and managed to get Aces and 4's.  Go figure.  Thought about going back to the "chip changers" as we have dubbed them.  And thought I'd have more fun setting the money on fire out in the parking lot or maybe even playing $100 slots.  1st $100 got 3 bars for $500, cashed out an thought about going back to the "chip changers"... no why do that might as well keep playing $100 slots it goes just as fast.  So here is what happended on my 2nd $100.
 

 
So, after this I met a man who only plays these $100 slots.  I never play slots unless I have to to use some comp play (some casinos wont allow you to play VP on comp/bonus$) and I usually cash out as soon as I can and take it straight to poker.  Anyway, this man tells me $100 slots is the best you can play (if you can afford it) he goes on to tell me how stupid it is to blow $3000 to $5000+ at VP.  You can easily double or triple you bankroll with that kind of start on $100 slots.  He said he had 1.4 million in 1099's last year and made a profit of 90K.  He has not had a loosing year since he started doing it 6 years ago.  I dunno but I was all ears after blowing through 6,200 hands with only 1 dealt quad and then turning $200 into $8,500 .
 
 
edit: oh forget to add yes I quit playing the $100 slot after that hit and I did go back to the "chip changers" and blew another $2,300 without a quad and then called it a night. 

[BOOPSAHOY]

You need to find a happy medium between slots and vp-mayube plan to spend 1/2 your bankroll on vp and then switch to slots if you are getting killed!

[mightwin]

Congratulations.  Very nice.  Sometimes it pays to try something new.  More luck.

[111charlie111]

What slot machine was this guy raving about?  Red, white and blue?

[BillyJoe]

Higher denom slots will usually have a better payoff opportunity, in the long run, but you need the bankroll. I was just curious, though. You said this guy had a bunch of 1099s. Why were they not W2-Gs?

[spxChrome]

Higher denom slots will usually have a better payoff opportunity, in the long run, but you need the bankroll. I was just curious, though. You said this guy had a bunch of 1099s. Why were they not W2-Gs?
 
Yes w2-g not 1099 sorry been doing taxes.

[Lucky Larry]

What I really find hard is when you know you are using the right strategies, playing the right machine/games (high returns/low variance) and its kicking your rear.... Meanwhile the player next to you is hitting like crazy using the wrong strategy (or doesn't know how to play) and/or is playing a low pay machine.   

I try to keep remembering what someone here said; "you will still frequently lose playing FP JOB/NSUD".

Still better to be lucky.

[brmcc74]

I just finished up the worst month Ive ever had playing vp. I play 99.4% -99.8% correct holds. I can live with that. Not sure why Ive had the poor play lately. I do know that Im done. How long? Not sure. It is my opinion though that just playing opt strategy with a good comp system isnt enough to even come close to breaking even when a bad run hits like a ton of bricks. I kept playing through because math tells me that it will even out in the end. For me though, if Im down 16k to 20k credits with no rfs in sight, How is it gonna even out? The only people making any money at this are the people writing books and software and marketing their products. Congrats, my hats off to you.

SPX= nice hit by the way. My vp has seemingly gotten hard to play also lately.

[royal flush]

thats the nature of vp even playing 100%+ games a bad streak can drive you crazy it will pass then you will get hot like lucky larry

[shadowman]

 The only people making any money at this are the people writing books and software and marketing their products.
 Simply not true. I had my best year ever last year. Everyone has their ups and downs.