coupon strategy

[WisT]

      I have coupons good for $250 bonus per each new handpay.  My thought is to play $1 ten line triple double bonus poker ($50 each game).  Advice and thoughts appreciated.  Is it worth the effort and risks?      

[BobDancer]

Can't answer your question unless you include information about pay schedules. Including $5 and $10 single-line games, what are all the relevant games and pay schedules at the casino you are talking about? Bob

[WisT]

I have coupons good for $250 bonus per each new handpay.  My thought is to play $1 ten line triple double bonus poker ($50 each game).  Advice and thoughts are appreciated.  Is it worth the effort and risks?      
     The casino has the usual range of 14 different VP games 97% to 99.6% est. 
  
   I am starting to appreciate the problem.  I need to maximize the odds of getting to $1200 (or more). . 
 
At $.25 units, I need to win 4800 units to get to $1200  (only a RF would work)
At $.50 units, I need to win 2400 units to get to $1200 
At $1, I need to win 1200 credits 
At $2, I need to win 600 credits
At $5 units, $25 per line, 10 lines, I need just 240 credits
 
     It is clear that expensive games and multi-line  have more handpays.  For a $5 unit game at $25 per line, 10 lines it is $250 per game, the partial pay table is as follows:
 
4 kind  pays a minimum $1250 per line, so all I need is one        
full house $225 per line 
flush        $200 per line
straight    $100 per line
trips          $50 per line
two pair    $25 per line
pair           $25 per line
 
   My numbers show that getting at handpay at $25 a line and 10 lines is about 1/35.
Here is why... here are the only ways...
 
getting a RF ending is 10/40,000  or  .0025%
getting a SF ending is 10/9150  or  .1093%
getting at least one 4K  10/423   or 2.364%
dealt FH, 10 lines is             .1441%
dealt Flush, 10 lines           .1967%
miscellaneous est.    .05%            
 
     So far we have 2.87% or once every 35 hands.  I guess that non-jackpot hands return about 50% [a separate problem] of my money.  So 35 plays x $250 is $8750.  But 50%? keeps getting recycled. So I estimated that $5000 will achieve the $250 bonus.  The average winning jackpot hand will likely be near $5000.  $250/$5000 is an extra 5% return.  That is achieveable in 1/4 hour or $1000/hour   That is my guess.      

[BobDancer]

Your numbers indicate you're playing $5 Ten Play 9/8 TDB --- which is well over 100% even without this promotion. I'll pay a big finders fee if you can show me this game.   Keep in mind that TDB has a variance in excess of 90. On $5 Ten Play TDB, it is no trick at all to go through $20,000 in an hour. For many folks that would be a serious showstopper.  I'm going to address this question on the radio show tonight. Listen in at www.klav1230am.com 7-8 p.m. Pacific Time --- or I'll post a link to it tomorrow. Bob

[backsider]

This fellow is talking about a $250 bonus on a handpay of some kind and its still confusing. It doesnt appear he is looking to tackle the $5 ten play game, and if its really 9/8 then he should be in there playing it instead of wasting time on a forum.

[WisT]

No, this is a standard triple double bonus game that returns 98.154%.  Sorry for the confusion.  With a coupon bonus, it would be slightly above 100%.  The coupons had to be earned with a previous handpay.