Roveer's revenge...

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roveer
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Roveer's revenge...

Post by roveer »



Made another visit to Harrah's AC this weekend.  Decided not to even go to the casino until very late at night.  Most of my afternoon / evening ventures never really resulted in much.  So I went out at about 11:30pm and between then an 9am managed to rack up 7 hand pays with the best two at the very end.  Haven't seen dealt quad aces in a long time so it was a nice way to end the visit.  Suffice it to say, I took the money and ran, quickly...  Enjoy.       

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WOW! Wonderful!

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roveer you may have been asked in the past but I can't remember; do you play at one machine or do you move around? Congrats on the hits by the way.
 
Ted

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Jezzus H Christmas Roveer, how the fark do u do it???    I am solid in my conclusion that both Borgata and Harrah's-AC are head and shoulders above the rst of the city, and obviously this shows and reflects in the FACT that Borgata is number 1 and HArrah's is number 2 in AC in terms of both REVENUE and PROFIT, month to month and Year to Year, for the last several years.....in fact of the 12 casinos, Borgata nad HArrahs are so far ahead of the rest of the pack in befuddles the imagination.   I believe this results in gamblers such as yourself, and now ME, enjoying distinct and marked success at Harrah's compared with the rest of the joints in AC....I cannot explain it any other way.......EXCEPT: I notice that you always play dollar denomination (well, almost, you did play 50 cents there a little....)     This also correlates with my theory and my observations and input from others that AC, in operating Video Poker as simply another manifestation of slots, accords greater return % to the higher denomination plays versus the lower denomination.....basically, essentially the same as other slots work and are set up, whereby 25 cent and below slots return around 92%  while dollar and above slots return anywhere from 96 to 99% give or take.....anyway, that's my working theory to explain the sustained and stark results I have experienced playing only 25 cent Video poker throughout the various AC casinos.  Still, roveer, I would really like to meet up with you at HArrahs AC one of these visits.....whatever your feelings or preferences for socializing in casinos I will abide and respect, meaning if you want or need to ONLY play by yourself I am cool with that, but I would love to have a drink or a bite to eat before and after playing so we can discuss and compare notes and what not......Food and booze is on me!!!!!    what say you?      Please email me at club_da_burglar@yahoo.com   

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roveer you may have been asked in the past but I can't remember; do you play at one machine or do you move around? Congrats on the hits by the way.
 
Ted
 As I continue to refine my play one of my keen observations has been that I rarely back-to-back on the same machine. At least not in the same session. If I remember correctly, and by looking at the pictures. These 7 hand pays came from 2 different machines, but only 2. You'll notice in the pictures the one with the light glare. That's the same machine and was responsible for four of my seven hand pays. BUT, they were at different times. The other three came from the machine at the other end of the row.  I do often move around. Where I play there are five STP machines in the smoking area with one of them being a Double STP machine and not playable at dollar denominations, so that leaves four machines. I often play only two of those because I have deemed the other two brain dead. Don't get me wrong, I've had hand pays on all of them, but those seem more dead than others AND I don't like getting trapped on either side. That's just me. Then there is the Diamond Cove that has four STP uprights. Out of those I play three, the fourth I've deemed brain dead. So I usually move between those two areas and occasionally over to UX to break things up. UX has not provided much excitement for me lately, so I have been laying off. A while back, I had a 7,800 hand pay followed by a 4,000 hand pay at UX same machine, 15 minutes apart. Haven't had a single hand pay since then. Gotta watch UX, it can destroy a bankroll...  I've also noticed that at least for STP play is either Great, Slack or Dead. Great is pretty self explanitory, slack means your getting some back, getting multipliers and maybe just going sideways and not losing all of your bankroll. Dead on the other hand, is multiplier GONE, hands are crappy and a thousand bucks is gone in 10 minutes. Also, I've noticed that you usually have to play for a while, say 20 minutes before you can really determine what is happending. You have to make a committment to the machine. I've seen lots of folks in and out in 5 minutes, button slapping, swearing, making noises. It sucks to be you dude. What's the fun in that? My friend once said to me, "you really go deep on those machines". That was in Vegas after he saw a couple of my long sessions and big payouts. I think there's something to that. Yes, you can step up and hit a jackpot in one hand, but that's like buying one ticket in the lottery. Odds arent that good. On Sunday after the 2 big hits, all machines went dead and with all the adrenaline it was hard to stop playing even with the knowledge that the machines were dead. Seems I'm always trying to fill in a hole somewhere and there's never enough "dirt" to fill them in. That leads to trying too hard. That's a bad recipie and if I could give any advice, here it is:  I've heard others hear talk about VP being a game of timing. Whether it's timing the frequency of your trips, the day of the week, the time of day, the selection of machines, how fast your play and even how fast you select your holds and draws. I think there is a lot to this and I have tried to determine patterns in all of the above. For me it was Sunday nights, but seems to have changed (and why wouldn't it). I've also noticed that when I sit next to the button slappers who's goal it is to play as fast and as efficiently as possible, these folks rarely have any great sucess. Believe me, sometimes I play the same way (except for the button slapping and the talking to myself). I've found when I gamble in an aprehensive or tense or desperate mood I rarely have any success. What I have found is that when I play at a slower and more random speed when it comes to deal/draw that things happen. Don't get me wrong, a dead maching is a dead machine and the only thing that will fix it is time. I've literally hit up all my regular machines so hard (winning) that nothing will allow them to deal a handpay except letting some time go by. Sometimes that's a few hours.  So yes, moving around is important. I usually linger after a handpay just a little but then move on. I probably walk a mile or more in a casino during a visit. I try to profile the machine based on my 3 categories and get away when it's dead. Oh, sometimes it's just the game that is dead. Considering I play 50 - 1.00 5 and 10 handed STP, that's typically 4 games per machine and they can all act totally differently. When 10 handed dollars is bad, I switch to 5 handed dollars or 10 handed halfs. I'm all over the place always seeking out the best performer. You see, the game, dealing and holding cards, is now just a muscle memory experience for me. I'm able to spend my time trying to determine the best opportunity whether it be game on machine, machine in row, section of casino, or whether it's best not to play at all... Yes, that is a valid option and should always be considered.  Just in case some may thing this is all rather scientific and mechanical, I do still have fun and still enjoy my visits. While I do at times consider it a job or work, It' still beats the alternative. Of course that's when your winning.  So, play smart, profile the game, leave when you win, stop when nothing seems to be happening and for gods sake, don't slap the buttons and talk to yourself. You'll find me across the row glaring at you.  Oh, and if you sit in the smoking area, don't fake cough because your mad that I'm smoking, otherwise I'll come find you in the non smoking area and make fart noises when I sit next to you.  Oh, and don't forget the collander hat with the tinfoil antannas. That's key to winning as well.     Roveer...

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The brush is to fire up the static electrons?    Great hits!

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  Roveer I didn't think your play is scientific or mechanical and I'm willing to go out on a limb and say it probably mirrors the play of 50% of all video poker players. I tend to sit at one machine but I have jumped back and forth between several two, or even three, machines, depending on the individual moods of the machines. I will also switch denominations, as you do, and I tend to stay upbeat and relaxed vs. tense and anxious. I believe that staying upbeat during a session is much better than getting in a downer mood and then hoping to hit to raise the mood. But here, it's : "to each their own."
 
  Congrats again and nice work on the picture, you beat faygo to the punch.
 
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Post by EDC1977 »

Love the picture. CD would be proud. Nice hits BTW. Congratulations.

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Still, roveer, I would really like to meet up with you at HArrahs AC one of these visits.....whatever your feelings or preferences for socializing in casinos I will abide and respect, meaning if you want or need to ONLY play by yourself I am cool with that, but I would love to have a drink or a bite to eat before and after playing so we can discuss and compare notes and what not......Food and booze is on me!!!!!    what say you?      Please email me at club_da_burglar@yahoo.com   

DaBurglar,

Don't think I'm ignoring your post. I only had time for one long winded (yes, I've been told that I'm long winded, but that's how I think, and that's how I write. Doesn't seem like it's going to change) response before I had to get on the road. I'll get back to you with a more thorough response when I have time. Heck, I spell check and punctuate my text messages. No BRB,LOL for me

I will tell you that Gambling to me is a very personal and private thing. I used to hate the idea of working with a host because I just wanted to come and go as I please. I even used to book my rooms on-line and use the self check-in kiosk at Harrah's. Then I found out I got much better rooms when working with a host. I don't even like gambling with my friends. I like being alone. Most of my work and family time is crowded with people (as it should be), and I find this is my quiet time. I don't camp in the woods, I camp in the middle of a crowded casino but to me, I'm all alone. Funny how that happens. I tell you guys there's a book in all of this and I might just write it.

So, I'll have to give a face to face meeting some thought. Not something I'd ordinarily do but I will consider it. I've often worried that I would meet one of our regular gang here on VP.COM and find out they were one of the crowd that I had given a pet name to like "Slappy", or "frozen guy", or "the professor". I guess I do that to break up the bordom that can sneak in during those long overnight sessions.

But who knows, maybe you meet me and it turns out that you had a pet name for me all along. I could think of a few but "machine hog" comes to mind. :0

Roveer...

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Post by Lucky Larry »

Keep up the great pictures/hits Roveer. I need the "dream" to stay alive.

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