broke my golden rule and it cost me

[4625601]

was at mohegan sun last nite..havent been going a lot over the summer but decided to take 300 and give it a shot...was playing in old poker room converted recently to all vp room on earth side...up against the back wall is bank of i believe 6 upright machines w/ddb progressive..to be eligible for progressive payouts u have to play 10 credits instead of 5...its a .25 cent game..the progressives start at 4 of a kind(2s;3s;4s) w/or without kicker all the way up to the royal...i would put 20 into each machine and give each a shot...on the 3rd or 4th machine i held dueces and got 2 more w/the ace kicker for 547.00..i was a happy camper...after a good hit i play 5 more hands on the same machine then out..if its gonna hit rite back it usually does it in those 5 hands..otherwise your just throwing $ away..there are plenty of other machines....i always play aggressively..i have thrown out paired jacks or quuens or kings in the past to go 3 or 4 suited to the royal and have pulled 4 or 5 that way..the only 2 games where i will hold paired bricks is super double(600 credits for 4 jacks;queens;kings) or super double double(1600 credits for jacks;queens;kings w/the ace kicker.....with that in mind i moved to the end machine threw in a twenty and started punching..the royal progressive was at 2250.00......about 5 hands in i got dealt 10;q,k of hearts w/q clubs and garbage card...without thinkoing i held the 2 queens and U KNOW WHAT HAPPENED!....ACE AND JACK OF HEARTS........SOMEBODY PUT A BULLET THRU MY HEAD....i cash out the 547 voucher and left.
 
anybody else out there remember when they broke regular playing strategy and it cost them big

[BillyJoe]

I know it looks like that to you, and it feels bad when you see that, but in reality, you would have NOT drawn those same cards had you made a different hold.

The RNG is continuously cycling at the speed of electricity as you are making your holds, so any hold that you make differently would have resulted in different cards appearing on the draw. There is a chance, of course, that your alternate hold would have been in the exact same millisecond, but doubtful.

Feel better ?

[EDC1977]

Well stated Billyjoe. The RNG would likely have NOT completed your RF hand. Pure coincidence sucks when you know what you discarded. Good luck on your progressive endeavors. Chase the Royal.

[Kibel x2]

On that hold...tell the machine that you're going to count to three...hit the 'draw' button at 2 1/2.

[Vman96]

With the progressive sitting that low, you made the right play anyway.

What's odd is I have never noticed this happen to me before. Toss 3 to a Royal for high pair and get the other two royal cards. I assume it's had to happen by now, but I've never noticed.   

[spxChrome]

Don't listen to them anything and everything is possible in the world of Video Poker

[DaBurglar]

this has happened to me a lot, and for a while I always assumed it was just another manifestation of me being "unlucky"......but it is NOT>Billyjoe correctly explained a big part (but not the only part) of this dilemma/situation.MANY times I have made correct strategy/math holds only to see me draw cards that would have given me a royal or some other premium hand if I had broken away from perfect strategy  and gone for some pie-in-the-sky longshot.....example:Last month at Harrahs-AC I was playing DDB and I was dealt  Kh 10h  Ac Ah Ad .... now obviously with DDB paying 800 and 2000 for quad aces with or without kicker, you do not even blink and hold the aces......but I was indeed dealt on the draw Jh Qh....oh well.  but the point billyjoe makes, IF I had instead decided to go for the royal, and held the 3 hearts, the time differential it takes me to hold 3 cards in sequence together (the  aces)  versus the extra millisecond it takes me to hold the K and 10 and jump over the Ace of clubs and hold the Ace of hearts very well may have made different cards appear than the Qh  and Jh.......but who really knows??????     Point of fact is you will drive yourself totally batsh*t crazy if you start beating yourself up over stuff like this.     Just play perfect sound mathematical strategy and live with the results, whatever they are......if you cant do that, then give up playing VP and move on to tiddlywinks.      This is one of the reasons I RARELY play blackjack anymore.....the only times I allow myself now to play BJ is either completely ALONE by myself at a table at 4 am when the casino is dead, or with a table full of people who I know are knowledgeable players and know how to play the game.    Otherwise, inevitably, you get some yokel who cannot accept the fate of gambling and b i t c hes and whines every time he sees a sequence or play where it would have turned out different if HE had done something contrary to correct strategy.....like standing with a hard 15 against a dealer 9 or face card, and the dealer turns over a card where he has to hit and draws a 5 or 6, and the player who went against correct strategy goes berserk.     Or even worse:     Player DOES the correct thing and hits his hard 15 against a dealer 9 and he busts with a face card....then the dealer turns over his card to reveal a 7 to go with his 9 for 16 and the dealer busts as well.   The player who busted then cries and whines that he should have NOT hit........I cannot abide that behavior for very long, its just a fundamental unwillingness to accept responsibility for one's behavior, that's all it is!     Point of fact is this:  IF we could actually predict what was going to happen next, it would not be gambling, would it?  and how long do you think the casinos would stay in business?????   DUHIf you are going to gamble, learn the best way to play and then only play with money you can afford to lose....and then just ACCEPT what happens.NOW.....if something foul happens, or you are cheated or otherwise given a raw deal, that's a different story.

[olds442jetaway]

Don't listen to them anything and everything is possible in the world of Video Poker

     That being said, both you and I know that to be true going well over 500k hands without a Royal in draw poker. Speaking of Mohegan Sun, this is what happened the other night in the opposite direction. Playing quarter job, I tossed a junk hand and drew all the spades for a Royal. That hasn't happened to me in over 10 years. Playing the same machine for a few more minutes, I switched play to Deuces Wild 50 cents and bet 10 instead of 5. Got dealt 4 deuces within 10 or fifteen minutes for another grand. It was still hitting when the wife showed up and pointed to her watch as it was time to go. Like SPX said everything is possible in vp.

[FloridaPhil]

All that math is an attempt to explain the unexplainable.  When you’re hot your hot, when you’re not your not.  That's why it's called GAMBLING!  
 
 

[DaBurglar]

What you need to factor in are all the comps and bonuses and giveaways, and all the perks that each players club offers.    This is the essence of B. Dancer's  ADVANTAGE PLAY theory.      There is two parts:  First you learn to play in the best mathematical manner possible, then you only play in casinos and on days that offer you the MOST "extras" for your play (i.e. Points, Comp dollars, slot dollars, etc)This month at the Taj Mahal, for example, they have Numerous days scheduled for 5x, 7x or 10x comp dollars depending on your current tier level in their players card system.   It is imperative for someone who is serious about maximizing their return to schedule play on these types of days.    There are also similar days scheduled for 3x or 4x  SLOT DOLLARS whereby you earn slot dollars at a accelerated pace....same deal, you need to schedule some play on those days too.    And this applies to EVERY casino you may have the chance to play at....you need to keep abreast of this things CLOSELY and role with the changes, go where the best advantage goes....as much as you are able or want to.Now, if you are perfectly happy "just showing up" wherever and whenever you feel like it, and could care less about all that, then fine....but if so, then you lose much of the right to gripe about bad luck.Caesars in AC (and I assume elsewhere) offers on Thursdays a 10X reward credit earning period that runs the whole gaming day 12 am to 11:59pm.    If you are a regular caesars player then you would be seriously remiss to neglect to schedule some play on this date(s). as that 10X RC really helps offset a lot of the house advantage in slots, and can even turn some Video Poker games into Positive expectation games......let's put it this way:  Caesars properties in AC (Ballys, Caesars and Harrahs)  took some of their 99%plus games like 9/6 JOB and 8/5 BP and a few others and turned them into awful 50 bucks coin in for 1 reward credit.  Well, on the thursday 10X RC days, you might consider playing these games because with the multiplier you offset their attempt to gyp you out of RCs.......get it?