The one coin system pays in 2015

[wildman49]

Been using the one coin system for many months and it works. Here is another hit from Sunday. Have been doing the 1 coin system for about 4 months now. Two hits at $1000. One royal for $4000. The best part of the system is you don't give it back. I have had 4 other royals on one coin since the 4k royal. Thank you again Phil!!

[olds442jetaway]

Great job. Maybe I will give it another shot in 2015. Had no luck with it last year. Of course I had no luck with anything vp related last year. So far so good for this year.

[alpax]

Thanks for sharing wildman49 and nice hit!

Dealt deuces, happens about 1 in 54000 hands.

The system calls for a cash out at $50, I've noticed you just played through to get those ducks.

I've yet to hit Quad Deuces on Deuces Wild, but have got them in JoB more than a fair share.

[luvzlyfe]

 Very nice!  Can you explain the "one coin system"?

[FloridaPhil]

Great job!  I've been playing this way for about 18 months now and I'm still winning myself. This strategy goes against everything the pros tell you, but they aren't playing our games.  When playing negative expectation games, controlling your losses is much more important than navigating your wins.  The whole strategy is outlined in detail at CheapVideoPoker.com  .  I have nothing to sell, I just wish recreational video poker players would stop giving their money to the casinos and keep some of it for themselves. 

[olds442jetaway]

I am going to give it another shot Phil on my next trip. With this arctic blast, it won't be for a week or so. Need to keep an eye on things at home. If I had hit as many deuces quads last year on Deuces wild as on job, I would have already bought that new car I have my eye on. In the meantime, my Saturn is still being faithful and getting great gas mileage still. Turned 300k last week on the clock. For 2015, I have been playing something that reminds me of one coin, but it is completely different. When I am not playing draw poker, and get one of the few remaining Double Down Stud machines, I play one coin until the amount I would get from hitting a wild Royal would not make me even. On this game, it pays 100 for 1 which is really 200 since you always double your bet when you have a shot at the wild royal. I would then bet 2 coins until hitting that wild Royal would not get me even and so on up the ladder. I have only made 3 trips so far for 2015, but have managed to pull the Wild Royal when I needed it on the Double Down Stud game. If I ever hit dealt deuces quad deuces, it is just like hitting the royal on draw poker paying the same amount as draw poker after doubling. Since I like both games, my plan is to play both one coin and my version of one coin on the next trip. As you have probably read on my other thread, so far the machines feel just like the old days so far in 2015.

[FloridaPhil]

I'm sure there are lots of different strategies that do the same thing.  The idea is to play 80% of your hands at single coin and the rest at max coins.  I like my strategy because the max bets occur in rhythm with the flow of a typical deuces wild game.  I've tried about everything else I could think of and it hasn't worked as well over the long haul. Maybe you will come up with something better.  Don't forget to share... 

[olds442jetaway]

I doubt I will come up with anything better Phil and definitely not cheaper. If I can come up with even or better on what I am working on or at least minimal losses, in 9 out of 10 sessions, I will certainly post here. Even it it does work long term, most casinos don't even offer the double down stud game anymore and those machines at Mohegan are cranky and ancient. I like them because I can play almost twice as many hands per hour as draw poker and have hopefully shorter sessions. Another thing is mine is based on Martingale Clone which most will not want to play. However, it usually takes quite a while playing to lose a net of 200 coins and even then it wouldn't be so bad to play 2 coins while playing catch up. Much too early to tell. If I remember, the odds of hitting a wild royal on that game is about the same as hitting deuces quads on draw poker and the probability of hitting 4 deuces dealt is in the same ballpark as getting a real royal on draw poker. I can also test it out some on this site, but the downside is I cannot save my game and come back to it later where I left off. I can always mark down where I was though on a pad and just start a new game where I left off on this site. Time will tell and hopefully not too much money.

[alpax]

From my limited experience from playing Deuces Wild, if you constantly bet the same amount each hand, typically the bankroll goes down and shrinks until the moment you hit those quad deuces to recover those bankroll. What is nice about the 80% single coin and 20% max coin experience is that the max coin wins can often recover your bankroll without wild royal/5 of a kind/quad deuces to hit if you get back to back 4 credit wins (more common than the 2 credit straight or the 3 credit flush). Then again, math is math and if you do not manage to hit any of the max bet wagers, it will end up being a disasterous session (but no video poker game or strategy is prone to terrible streaks).

[olds442jetaway]

I'm not sure, but we could be talking about apples and oranges here. The game I am referring to in my strategy is Double Down Stud Deuces Wild. You only win on dealt hands on that game and the payouts of course are way more for the same ending hand than draw poker. As much as I like to play the one coin Phil method, last year I just never could connect with the big hands after wins of 4 or more.
    I realize that the deuces usually run in streaks no matter what the experts say. That said, I find that on the Double Down Stud game you are most likely to be dealt a big hand after a long period of dud hands or a long slow drain of your bankroll. That is why I play a Martingale Clone method on that game. The mistake I made last year accounting for my enormous losses was not waiting long enough before increasing my bet. Sometimes, I would up my bet after as few as 3 or 4 straight losses and continue that pattern all the way up to the max 25 credits bet allowed by the machine. What that resulted in was lots of sessions where the bankroll disappeared. I tried the same thing on job and deuces wild. One thing I did notice though on all of the games played. If you can play sessions of 5k to 7k hands, on any game, you will almost always hit at one premium hand. If you don't go up on your bets too early and get wiped out, you should catch one of the bigger hands by the end of the session. The downside of course is playing so long. This year, on my short sessions where no premium hand has hit, I will pick up on my next trip where I left off on the last. I remember a few times last year going home when my bet had progressed up to 8 units or so due to pressing family matters or committments. I would be down quite a bit at that point. Then on the next trip, sometimes I would hit a premium hand right away with only 1 coin bet. If I had picked up at that 8 unit bet or wherever I left off, I would have at least been even for the prior session and way ahead for this one. Well, its early in the new year, but one thing is for sure. Whether its Phil's method or mine, the bets will be a lot smaller this year and when I am ahead a decent amount, I am going to sock away 90 percent of the winnings and just have a little fun with the rest.