how to beat the math....

[notes1]

just came back from a one day, 13 hour gambling session at cherokee, only time to a casino for february. i learned how to beat paytables evenly split between 8/5, 7/5 and 6/5. how do you beat the math..... be really, really, really lucky!  will not bore you wih all the details and no pictures, because i do not know how to take a picture from the phone and put it on this forum. do not know how to text either, computer stupid.  hit 4 A's five times and 4 were with the kicker. playing 95% quarters and 5% nickels, got payouts of $1k, $500, 2-$400 and $200. also got $500 from TDB with dealt 4's w/kicker on the last machine i played. and a couple of $100 payouts to boot.  so a VP player who rarely wins can beat the bad paytables, just be lucky. have to admit, it was fun. hope all of you get the same luck, especially olds, he has been on a bad run.

[FloridaPhil]

Congratulations!  Good to hear of your great day, sounds like fun.   The best video poker day I ever had in my life was playing 8/5 and 7/5 Jacks or Better.  Go figure...  

[DaBurglar]

congrats.......Yes LUCK is the key to anything related to winning in CASINOS, even if you are an advantage player like BOB Dancers!     In Bob's case, he still needs to periodic "LUCKY HIT" to make his system work, but the argument goes that by maximizing his "ADVANTAGE", he is able to keep playing LONG ENOUGH so that the eventual "LUCKY HIT"  shows up........

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thanks phil, i never really paid attention to any math, until i came to this forum looking for answers. the math folks made sense, they gave me a least a partial answer as to why the cost of playing had risen.  the truth is, with all the good hands i had on this one particular day, they were spread among all the paytables. i just felt kind of stupid playing the bad schedules because now i knew how bad they are.  the one thing that is not often talked about is, that if one wants to play and you cannot just skip out to vegas, you have to play with what is available. roveer and i were commenting that one thing we both noticed was that we just might do better, playing at casinos that are busier, as opposed to many casinos that seem empty. just the fact that the machines are being turned over more often appears to help me. no science behind it, may not make sense, i do not know for sure. 

[olds442jetaway]

WTG Notes.....

[alpax]

the truth is, with all the good hands i had on this one particular day, they were spread among all the paytables. i just felt kind of stupid playing the bad schedules because now i knew how bad they are.

the one thing that is not often talked about is, that if one wants to play and you cannot just skip out to vegas, you have to play with what is available. roveer and i were commenting that one thing we both noticed was that we just might do better, playing at casinos that are busier, as opposed to many casinos that seem empty. just the fact that the machines are being turned over more often appears to help me. no science behind it, may not make sense, i do not know for sure.


Good job on a nice session.

Although you know more about the differences in paytables than before, you are right about skipping to Vegas.

Though Vegas is arguably the best jurisdiction to play video poker, it is unfortunate that the travel costs to get there for most recreational players will cannibalize most of the benefits a good promotion and paytable games they have there.

There was a guest on the Gambling With An Edge radio show who is a quarter VP player that went through the trouble of signing up for various credit card programs to get free bonus airfare miles from regular expenses, travels from Michigan to Vegas, plays 10/7 DB or 100%+ progressive games, and coins in just enough for free rooms.

[OTABILL]

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the truth is, with all the good hands i had on this one particular day, they were spread among all the paytables. i just felt kind of stupid playing the bad schedules because now i knew how bad they are.

the one thing that is not often talked about is, that if one wants to play and you cannot just skip out to vegas, you have to play with what is available. roveer and i were commenting that one thing we both noticed was that we just might do better, playing at casinos that are busier, as opposed to many casinos that seem empty. just the fact that the machines are being turned over more often appears to help me. no science behind it, may not make sense, i do not know for sure.


Good job on a nice session.

Although you know more about the differences in paytables than before, you are right about skipping to Vegas.

Though Vegas is arguably the best jurisdiction to play video poker, it is unfortunate that the travel costs to get there for most recreational players will cannibalize most of the benefits a good promotion and paytable games they have there.

There was a guest on the Gambling With An Edge radio show who is a quarter VP player that went through the trouble of signing up for various credit card programs to get free bonus airfare miles from regular expenses, travels from Michigan to Vegas, plays 10/7 DB or 100%+ progressive games, and coins in just enough for free rooms.[/QUOTE]

We go to Vegas to do more than gamble. Great restaurants, shows, and other attractions make it a nice weekend getaway for us. It is nice to play in Vegas casinos, but as a total package. We are fortunate in that we are a 5-6 hour drive to Vegas so airfares are irrelevant and we can do weekends.

Agree that financially, it makes no sense to pay for airfare if you are only going to Vegas to get the better VP paytables. Ironically, we have had more VP success locally. Maybe that is why we get comped rooms.   

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thanks to all. alpax, i would like to take credit for stellar play, but the truth is all the premium hands i got were simple decisions. anyone with just a basic understanding how to play would have had the same results. dumb luck, just happened to sit at the right machine at the right time.