Airport Deuces Spreadsheet

[Mr.Dawes]

I am about to start playing Airport Deuces and would be grateful for any suggestions on keeping track of my results. I have only played DDB and in that game I track hands played, coin in, four of a kinds, straight flushes and royal flushes. For airport deuces I would obviously track royal flushes and quad deuces but I may also track wild royals and possibly five of a kind. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[Vman96]

I would consider Wild Royals at the minimum as it's basically the deuces equivalent of a "quad". Five of a Kind and even Straight Flushes are also rare enough were you can consider keeping track of them without too much issue. Straight flushes come a little more than twice as often as non-wild quads.

[alpax]

Agreed with Vman, but to add one more comparison to the Deuces Wild tracking chart.

I would say 4 Aces (plain) and 4 2s, 3s, 4s, w/ Ace, 2, 3, 4 in DDB would be similar to the Quad Deuces in Deuces Wild. All 3 of those outcomes are around 1 in slightly over 5000 hands of occuring. Those two DDB hands pay 800, but the quad deuces is 1000, but that makes up for infrequent straight flush and 5oaK hands.

[FloridaPhil]

I only track quad deuces and royals. I consider everything else to be treading water.  Straight flushes happen much more frequently in this game than you would think and add a lot to your score.   Wild Royals are always welcome.  As stated they are similar to quads in Jacks as they won't make your day but will keep you in the game. This game is all about  hitting quad deuces and royals.  The game tends to have waves of good and bad runs, which plays right into my strategy of betting bigger when you're ahead.  We think it's more fun than all the other games and a good compromise between jacks and DDB.  Airport Deuces is getting harder to find in quarters.  Most of the casinos have gone to lesser pay schedules. If you find the game in quarters, let us know and we might join you. 

[Mr.Dawes]

Thanks to all for your input. I have decided to go with 5 of a kind and higher. I think straight flushed probably occur at a rate that it would be too distracting from play to record them. I am probably heading to the IP this weekend to start my Airport Deuces career. Maybe I will see you there.

[BobDancer]

I don't understand why you are tracking any of these results.The best info to track includes: slot club points when you start and stop; money won/lost; W2Gs; Amount withheld from W2Gs (if you're in one of those states).These numbers allow you to record accurately for tax purposes --- and also to check if any of your points "disappeared" since the last time you played. This happens at many casinos and if you have records you can usually get your points restored.The other numbers are useless. Who really cares if you hit 53 sets of deuces last year and 4 royals (or whatever your numbers were)? How does knowing that provide you with any useful information?The one advantage I can think of for tracking such things is that you're playing a game that returns less than 99% and tracking such things takes time which keeps your losses down a bit. Bob

[Mr.Dawes]

I don't understand why you are tracking any of these results.The best info to track includes: slot club points when you start and stop; money won/lost; W2Gs; Amount withheld from W2Gs (if you're in one of those states).These numbers allow you to record accurately for tax purposes --- and also to check if any of your points "disappeared" since the last time you played. This happens at many casinos and if you have records you can usually get your points restored.The other numbers are useless. Who really cares if you hit 53 sets of deuces last year and 4 royals (or whatever your numbers were)? How does knowing that provide you with any useful information?The one advantage I can think of for tracking such things is that you're playing a game that returns less than 99% and tracking such things takes time which keeps your losses down a bit. Bob



Why do I track these results? Because I like too. I had an uncle who always tracked his cars MPG between every fill up. Maybe it runs in my blood."Who really cares if you hit 53 sets of deuces and 4 royals?" I do.If I were a professional like you playing millions of hands a year I would not care either. However, as someone who plays only occasionally and as a form of entertainment, tracking my results on certain "jackpot" hands and comparing them to mathematically expected results is interesting. I like knowing how often I am hitting Aces with a kicker or royals or other hands. Sure the numbers are "useless" but that does not mean they are uninteresting, at least not to me.

[BobDancer]

. Sure the numbers are "useless" but that does not mean they are uninteresting, at least not to me.Okay. I accept that. To each his own

[Mr.Dawes]

[QUOTE=Mr.Dawes] . Sure the numbers are "useless" but that does not mean they are uninteresting, at least not to me.Okay. I accept that. To each his own[/QUOTE]Mr. Dancer, I just had another thought that I would appreciate your opinion on. I know that you teach the game. Could some stats be useful for a new player to possibly indicate potential errors in play? I just started last year and until recently only played DDB. I have played almost 38,000 hands of DDB and have only hit one straight flush, and it was dealt to me. Could this indicate that I am misplaying 3 card straight flush draws? Yes, I know that 38,000 is a relatively small number of hands and statistical outliers do occur, but maybe I need to review my play on these hands. I just got the trial version of Video Poker for Winners and plan on buying the full version so I will pay close attention to those hands.BTW, I really enjoy Gambling with and Edge.

[BobDancer]

 
I just started last year and until recently only played DDB. I have played almost 38,000 hands of DDB and have only hit one straight flush, and it was dealt to me. Could this indicate that I am misplaying 3 card straight flush draws? Yes, I know that 38,000 is a relatively small number of hands and statistical outliers do occur, but maybe I need to review my play on these hands. I just got the trial version of Video Poker for Winners and plan on buying the full version so I will pay close attention to those hands.BTW, I really enjoy Gambling with an Edge.
Thanx. Yes it's a possibility that you're misplaying 3-card straight flushes --- but your approach of recording specific hands isn't the way to figure it out.Using Video Poker for Winners, set the level of difficulty to advanced, and just play. Over several hundred hands you'll have many 3-card straight flush hands to play. If you play them all correct on VPW, your strategy is fine --- no matter how many successes you have in the casino world.If your results on VPW say you're playing badly, you are, no matter how many successes you have in the casino world.Your goal should be playing accurately on well-selected games. The results will take care of themselves.Bob