Riddle Me This

[Casino Knight]

If Video Poker is as some believe a "Slot Machine", and that the new Server Based Games are a not a game of skill, like a "Slot Machine", and the Server Based Games can be manipulated in a control room some place, why do the casinos require more Coin In for VP than a Slot, to earn a Point?

Just asking.

[alpax]

Video Poker usually carries lower theoretical loss than slots, usually more than the 2 folds even on the bad pat tables such as 8/5 DDB. Trust me on slots you can lose hundreds of dollars many visits in a row.

[Vman96]

Or even a bigger question, why aren't all paytables 9/6 for JoB and DDB if paytables and strategy didn't matter?   No one has ever given me a logical answer to that one.

[Casino Knight]

Inquiring minds "gotts to know"!!!

[FloridaPhil]

Slots machines cost lots of money to buy, operate and maintain.  A casino must make a minimum profit on each machine to keep it on the floor.  I recently had a chance to be present when the manager was opening the machines in my row and saw the accumulative totals displayed on the screen. Believe me, the casino knows exactly what the payout is for each machine and for which game. I don't doubt for a minute that they would pull a machine that showed an abnormally high payback, but I doubt that happens very often.   Video poker payback percentages are potentially higher than regular slots.  Also, with all the information and training software available, I'm sure casino managers believe they are vulnerable to an advantage player even if it doesn't actually happen.  For all these reasons, video poker comps are less than slots.  Interestingly enough, the casino profit numbers for Keno were much higher than video poker on the screen reports that I had an opportunity to see.

[FAA]

I recently had a chance to be present when the manager was opening the
machines in my row and saw the accumulative totals displayed on screen. Casino knows exactly what the payout is for each
machine and game.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The early bird gets the scoop. I would have written the figures down somewhere as soon as they left.

[FloridaPhil]

This happened at the Hollywood Hard Rock real early in the morning last week.  The manager and a slot attendant were taking notes on each machine and moving down the row.  I have no idea what period of time the numbers were calculating but they were all in the millions.  I was surprised to see that they had each game broken down separately.    As I recall, deuces had the highest payback.  This makes sense as the Hard Rock deuces games are pretty decent.   The Keno paybacks were in the 60-70% range.  I wish I could have spent more time looking but they were moving pretty fast.   They didn't seem to mind that I was looking. 

[onemoretry]

   The Keno paybacks were in the 60-70% range. 
Keno players take note!

[FAA]

surprised that they had each game broken down separately. Deuces had the highest payback. This makes sense as the Hard
Rock deuces games are pretty decent. Keno paybacks were in the
60-70% range.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Very granular. DW even beat JOB down there. You got it made! Keno even more brutal than I imagined.

[case]

[QUOTE=Vman96]Or even a bigger question, why aren't all paytables 9/6 for JoB and DDB if paytables and strategy didn't matter?   No one has ever given me a logical answer to that one. [/QUOTEI could not have said it better. I have been asking why they would need to "rig" a machines. But people keep saying they are not rigged.....but something is different. When I ask what the difference is between rigged and something different....they get upset with me!I believe the opening question was: if machines are not fair, why charge so much to play? If they are a slot, just charge the same as slots. Ya if machines were not fair they could use any pay tables like Vman said