Lottery scandal

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rascal
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Re: Lottery scandal

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Back in early 2015 I was playing at a casino in the Reno area. A violent storm came up, and I mean violent. So I stayed inside playing rather than go out into the weather. I am glad I stayed because I hit a modest handpay jackpot. Just as the attendant arrived there was a blink and a hum as the power failed and the generators kicked in. As we were both standing there my machine blinked very rapidly and my jackpot amount doubled! Obviously, I only got the original jackpot due to the malfunction, but the "doubling up" showed me once again that casino systems are not, in fact, infallible. Had the malfunction occurred before the attendant arrived, would I have received the doubled jackpot? Maybe not, but maybe.

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Post by FAA »

I clearly prefer more AC oversight. I don't have time to research the gutted state of affairs, but I trust entirely DB assessment of the pathetic situation. Quite bitter to be waiting fifteen months since my last RF, despite increased play. I still enjoy the atmosphere. I'll cease CET dining now that RCs have dwindled to less than the price of a lunch, even at one to one venues.

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FAA you are doing yourself a disservice if you trust entirely DB's assessment of the pathetic Atlantic City situation. As an onlooker it would appear that you currently do not because you continue to play video poker in Atlantic City.

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FAA you are doing yourself a disservice if you trust entirely DB's assessment of the pathetic Atlantic City situation. As an onlooker it would appear that you currently do not because you continue to play video poker in Atlantic City.Yeah, instead of "trusting" my 8 years of experience in and around AC, which includes frequent visits to the gaming control office (located on Tennessee Ave), go ahead and "trust" Ted's irrational spiteful childish petulant (and deceitful) distrust and mockery of any and all things I might say on this forum.....that's real solid.Ted's been to AC a total of ZERO times since 2010, but no matter.....people like him just KNOW.....FYI -   any and all info regarding the current or recent past in AC with respect to its casino gaming oversight and regulatory body is available for any and all who care to be informed about it ( as opposed to just flouting opinions and feelings.....)   And anyone who has frequented AC over the past 8-9 years (like I have and like TED has NOT) knows all about the total removal and downsizing of the in-house agents and presence in AC casinos.   It is a FACT......

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DaBurglar I've invested time in the past reading through New Jersey State Gaming Regulations to rebut some of your "opinions and notions."

The fact is this: The New Jersey State Police established in 1988, The Casino Gaming Bureau.

The Casino Gaming Bureau is made up of four units: Casino Investigations Unit; Special Investigations Unit; Financial Crimes Investigations Unit; and, Casino Services Unit.

The New Jersey State Police Casino Investigations Unit is a 24 hour operational unit made up of Troopers that ARE STATIONED and dispatched to ALL Atlantic City casinos.

I have not found ANY EVIDENCE stating that these New Jersey State Troopers have been removed form their positions in Atlantic City casinos.

Further: The New Jersey State Police Casino Gaming Bureau works in conjunction with: The New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement; and, the New Jersey Casino Control Commission. Also: The Office of the New Jersey State Attorney General; The State of New Jersey Department of Treasury and various other local law enforcement agencies including the Atlantic City Police Department.

If you can show the forum actual proof that the New Jersey State Police Troopers have been removed from their duties at all of the casinos in Atlantic City, please do so.

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DaBurglar I've invested time in the past reading through New Jersey State Gaming Regulations to rebut some of your "opinions and notions."

The fact is this: The New Jersey State Police established in 1988, The Casino Gaming Bureau.

The Casino Gaming Bureau is made up of four units: Casino Investigations Unit; Special Investigations Unit; Financial Crimes Investigations Unit; and, Casino Services Unit.

The New Jersey State Police Casino Investigations Unit is a 24 hour operational unit made up of Troopers that ARE STATIONED and dispatched to ALL Atlantic City casinos.

I have not found ANY EVIDENCE stating that these New Jersey State Troopers have been removed form their positions in Atlantic City casinos.

Further: The New Jersey State Police Casino Gaming Bureau works in conjunction with: The New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement; and, the New Jersey Casino Control Commission. Also: The Office of the New Jersey State Attorney General; The State of New Jersey Department of Treasury and various other local law enforcement agencies including the Atlantic City Police Department.

If you can show the forum actual proof that the New Jersey State Police Troopers have been removed from their duties at all of the casinos in Atlantic City, please do so.NJ Casino deregulation is a FACT, it happened, and nothing you typed above contradicts or disproves ANYTHING I personally have said or claimed here on this site.....NOTHING.    I MYSELF pointed out that the previous Casino Control Commission enforcement agents were eliminated and folded into the State Police.....ALL you did was highlight what was already known, that the State Police Enforcement division exists and now has the function it has.    Casino Control Agents (the ones who oversee and regulate the CASINOS themselves)  are Different from the State Troopers (who DO NOT go in and conduct audits of the casino itself or inspect individual machines, etc.   The State Troopers are mainly there for things like underage gambling and drinking, and crimes like assault, theft etc.)http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news ... htmlNotice in the article above from the 2011 Press of AC that there are comments in there by the State Attorney General expressing concern over the new arrangement being adequate to identify scams and problems etc.https://roysrants.wordpress.com/2011/02 ... money/This is typical of you and your misdirection, deception and moving topics out of the way and introducing totally different topics.This is not one of my "Notions" (god you are so ridiculous in your deceit)    I have been stating for years what is common knowledge in AC itself.....NJ casinos were deregulated early in Christie's reign for the usual political reasons, and I stated LONG before you ever did how the remnant was folded into and combined with NJ state police.   There is now LESS oversight, especially in house on property, than there was before.....far less.    There used to be several Agents on the floor 24/7 to both keep an eye on casino operations as well as patrons and gamblers.......People now have to write up their own complaints or phone them in (as I have done, and as I now know you can wind up waiting a lonnnnng time on hold before you ever get someone to talk to....)Please list or refer us to the source where you gleaned all this stuff about NJ State troopers......give the URL as I did above.I personally have never seen a trooper at an AC casino in the past 8 years NOR has anyone ever even mentioned that there are Troopers in house and on site, but of course that does not mean one or two arent there possibly undercover lol......still, THAT was never the issue.   What was the issue and my whole point is that there USED to be OFFICES and/or booths right in the middle of the casino floor that had huge signs clearly displayed "Casino Control Commission" that have been empty and bereft since 2011.You failed (again)





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AG Paula Dow bailed ASAP. Another Press of AC article:Dow leaves today after nearly two stressful, and sometimes
frustrating, years as the state’s top cop and chief lawyer. "It's a 24/7 type job, requiring you to reach out to all corners of
the state, daytime and nighttime," said Dow, a 56-year-old former prosecutor from Maplewood. "The people expect and deserve that
kind of attention. There were times the family didn’t get enough
attention. I liked the job a lot."

Still, it was no
secret that she wanted to be a judge. In December, Gov. Chris Christie
granted her wish, choosing her for the Superior Court in Essex County."If only casino patrons had such a cushy landing!  And yes, the trooper point is a straw man argument if I ever heard one. Red herring nosh, anyone?

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DaBurglar I'll respond later in more detail when I have the opportunity but I willpose this one question to you right now: How many times have you posted here on this site a comment about Casino Control Commission agents being replaced/ rolled into/ whatever with the New Jersey State Police?

You have led people to believe that the New Jersey State Police have just recently (within the last few years) taken over some responsibility for gaming control in New Jersey when in fact they've been quite active in it since 1988.

More later.

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DaBurglar I'll respond later in more detail when I have the opportunity but I willpose this one question to you right now: How many times have you posted here on this site a comment about Casino Control Commission agents being replaced/ rolled into/ whatever with the New Jersey State Police?

You have led people to believe that the New Jersey State Police have just recently (within the last few years) taken over some responsibility for gaming control in New Jersey when in fact they've been quite active in it since 1988.

More later.Even if I had "led even one single person to believe" what you just plopped into your mess above, SO WHAT??    WHat are you, weeping for the NJ state police because I deprived them of some sort of "Credit"????  giggle snortBut the fact is, I did not lead anything or anyone, not was it ever my point or intent.....I simply stated that the PREVIOUS enforcement aspects of the Casino COntrol comm.  were folded into the State police.....I D E F Y  you to find a single statement made by me where I specifically stated the NJ state police had nothing to do with casino enforcement UNTIL 2011......the fact is, YOU are the one concocting/creating this non-existent totally false (and completely pointless) issue because....well, because that's all you have.You do this all the time, you get in way over your head with me on an issue you know d*ck about, hurriedly slam some faux research together and call it "Refute Daburglar Part 37 or whatever....."   Why don't you do this,,,,,,TAKE a poll of the forum members here and actually ask them if any of them were really, truly  "LED TO BELIEVE" what it is you now desperately claim by my posts of the last 5 years.....then ask them how it has impacted or affected their lives......


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Post by Tedlark »

Oh Yeah! I DEFY you to DEFY me to take a poll. You sure do a lot of defying.

Ponder this: when I bring up something you wrote in previous postings, do you think I made it up?

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