Single Coin VP Strikes Again!

[FloridaPhil]

I'm sorry to inform you that all that VP math stuff you guys are so sold on doesn't work for me.  All grinding it out at max coins does is extend the pain.  Maybe it's because of where I play, how I play or the games I play.  I have no idea.  When I play VP your way, all I do is sit and watch my bankroll dissolve into thin air.When I play single coin VP jackpots happen on time or more frequently.  When I play max coins, they don't happen nearly as often.  All I'm doing is reporting what happens.  I'll leave the why up to you because it doesn't matter to me.

[FloridaPhil]

Try this explanation on for size.The games I have available to me usually have a 1-2% house edge.  I play as accurately as I can, but I am 70 years young. I also play faster than I should.  If I find myself losing when playing max coins, I lose confidence in max coins and head to the dollar or $5 dollar machines.  I don't want to play max coins on those machines so I play single coin.  Then, here comes the clincher.  I'm the luckiest freaking player in the world!  How's that work for you?

[billryan]

Phil,
If you were to give a million excuses why you play bad games, no one would care. It's when you state that playing bad games is somehow better than playing good ones and that 97% strategy works out better than 98.5 % that you get slammed.
Constantly starting post about single coin and then admitting you don't normally play it is what gets you branded a hypocrite. Ignoring math is what gets you called out.

[FloridaPhil]

Then don't play like me. What I do works for me. What you do doesn't.   Don't shoot the messenger.

[billryan]

   I honestly don't know if you are really, really stupid, or just plain stubborn.

[FloridaPhil]

Don't take this personally. I just don't care. I play the game for fun and that's all I want from it.

[FAA]

All grinding it out at max coins does is extend the pain. Losing when playing max coins, I lose confidence in max coins and head to the dollar or $5 machines.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Congratulations. It sure does in my case, at least. You can bust or ease up and then max bet. Or you can single coin it at the next denom. Turning $20 into $1,000 is a pipe dream for me. Avoiding taxes is icing on the cake. My confidence gets really shaken when losing "mid/max" coin quarters, so I head the the dollar machines and repeat the strategy there. Half the time it's a bloodbath, a quarter of the time it's a standoff and a quarter of the time I win. FP, send some of that luck north. 

[pokerpokerpoker]

Congratulations on the big wins!

Because it worked well this time; is your new strategy going to be to split the BR into quarter VP, $5 single coin and penny slots?

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=pokerpokerpoker]Because it worked well this time; is your new strategy going to be to
split the BR into quarter VP, $5 single coin and penny slots?
[/quote]That's a great question.  I don't believe there is only one way to play these games.  I would say about 80% of the time I play the best VP games with max coin quarters.  Some days this works and some days it doesn't.  If it doesn't, I go to a few fall back strategies that have worked for me over the years. One of them is the CS single coin strategy on $5 Deuces Wild machines.  Lately I have had some success with slots as well.  The good thing about slots is when I play them my free play goes through the roof. I never play single coin all day anymore.  I only use it to take pot shots on the big machines.  This is a pure luck strategy, but it seems to work for me.  The most important thing is to have enough discipline to walk on any decent jackpot.  A $5 single coin quad deuce pays the same as a quarter max coin royal only it's 9 times more likely.  My results have proved this out over and over again.The major difference between math based strategy and how I play is this.  Players using that strategy are playing for the long term.  They believe their results will mirror the odds over time.  I am playing for the short term.  Some times that short term is a few hours and other times it's a few days.   I could care less what happens long term.  I care a lot about what happens to my bankroll on a single gambling trip.   I can not accept the idea that sitting in front of a quarter video poker machine playing max coins will make me any kind of profit.  My goal is to break even on every trip and let my bankroll take care of itself.  Am I making money at the casino?  Occasionally, but most of the time my goal is to break even.  Am I breaking even long term?  Not always on the game itself, but if you add in comps my cost to play is very acceptable.  Do I ever lose?  Sure, but I always try to come home with some money in my pocket.I have tried playing VP using the "Dancer Style" strategy and all it does is lose my money.  I do not believe that strategy is flawed in any way.   The problem is I don't live in Vegas, I don't play perfectly and I can't accept losing short term as a normal part of the game.  I use my own strategy and I'm happy with it.  I also can not accept the idea that I should stay silent about how I play.  Players can learn from these discussions, even if all they learn is what not to do.There are over 4,500 slot machines at Tampa Hard Rock and at least that many in Hollywood.  They have all those different machines because not all players like the same thing.  Players are as different as the machines themselves.  Let's accept this fact and get back to enjoying VP instead of fighting over how to play it.

[billryan]

Congratulations on the big wins!

Because it worked well this time; is your new strategy going to be to split the BR into quarter VP, $5 single coin and penny slots?


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