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Math looks good on paper.Using a training site got a warning when I held 3 to the royal a .037 error. Said to hold 4 to the flush. I ignored the warning and play this hand the same way i would at the casino. Hit the royal.What would you hold?



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I checked with VP Tutor app and verified the correct math play is to hold the 4 suited cards. So you made the wrong hold.

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What was the other dealt card?

Forget it ,I figured it out - it was an off-suit king.

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To err is human. To forgive, divine.
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I was joking before. So there must be exceptions to the proper math plays.

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4 to a flush if I remembered the penalty exception. I hate hitting play money royals anyway.

I wouldn't blame anyone for "going for it" here though.

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I was joking before. So there must be exceptions to the proper math plays. No, there aren't. But, there are some situations involving penalty cards where the "second best" play is so close to the best one that it hardly makes much difference.

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Whether 0.037 is a large or small error is a matter of opinion. To me it is HUGE. (In my writings i usually call it a 3.7 cent mistake --- assuming you are playing $1 denomination five coins at a time). If you're playing 50 cents or larger denomination, the error is much larger because the royal comes with a W2G --- which has real costs associated with it. How big the costs are depends on many factors --- including the state you are playing in, the state you reside in, your income level, and whether or not you file as a professional gambler.When a play is close --- and one of the play leads to a royal flush --- it makes far more sense to me for recreational players to make the play that AVOIDS THE ROYAL because they are really expensive. It's fruitless, of course, to try to convince them of this. They see the end result as a royal --- and the real decision was made before the royal came along. Vman wouldn't blame anyone who went for the royal on this hand. I don't go around blaming people. But I certainly would think the person who did it was very knowledgeable . And it's difficult to admire the intelligence of someone who voluntarily gives up EV to go for a result that's going to increase his taxes when it is successful.

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Whether 0.037 is a large or small error is a matter of opinion. To me it is HUGE. (In my writings i usually call it a 3.7 cent mistake --- assuming you are playing $1 denomination five coins at a time). If you're playing 50 cents or larger denomination, the error is much larger because the royal comes with a W2G --- which has real costs associated with it. How big the costs are depends on many factors --- including the state you are playing in, the state you reside in, your income level, and whether or not you file as a professional gambler.When a play is close --- and one of the play leads to a royal flush --- it makes far more sense to me for recreational players to make the play that AVOIDS THE ROYAL because they are really expensive. It's fruitless, of course, to try to convince them of this. They see the end result as a royal --- and the real decision was made before the royal came along. Vman wouldn't blame anyone who went for the royal on this hand. I don't go around blaming people. But I certainly would think the person who did it was very knowledgeable . And it's difficult to admire the intelligence of someone who voluntarily gives up EV to go for a result that's going to increase his taxes when it is successful.Hard to argue with this well reasoned post by our foremost expert on VP.   But I'll try anyway....Bob, the most successful VP player whom I have NEVER met, our very own Tedlark here on VP.com, would himself "go for it" in this scenario.....the fact that he wins so much and so often, over 80% of the time, leads me to think that for recreational players the best thing to do is to just go for it......But I get what you are saying, and from a Bob Dancer perspective, or any other "Professional" perspective, YOUR way is the best.

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