Easiest game to learn near perfect strategy?

[EDC1977]

  Isn't NSUD or DWB really high variance games? If they aren't, I have a heck of a time breaking even, kinda like playing DDB. Also, is it worth losing the extra coins for 3oak on TDB?

[MikeA]

  Isn't NSUD or DWB really high variance games? If they aren't, I have a heck of a time breaking even, kinda like playing DDB. Also, is it worth losing the extra coins for 3oak on TDB?For me, "No" Ed.  I can never seem to get the bonus quad hits to offset the constant loses from the missing credit on 3ok On TDB.  But then here lately, I haven't been getting quads enough to play DDB very long either!By the way, this is for others reading the thread and not listed for you Ed.  From your posts, I would be surprised if you didn't already know all of this.I think the variance on most of the DW games is around 26%.DWB is 32% variance so is a pretty "tame" game compared to some of the others.DWDB however is 40%!But TDB, are you ready for this?  It's 98.28%!  Talk about a roller coaster!  This one just about has to be the KING of variance!  And, because of the different combinations of bonuses, the strategy can get a bit confusing.Thank goodness TBP is rather tame in comparrison at 44.2%.  This is in line with DDB so I'm comfortable in playing either of these if I can find them with good paytables.DB is more like 28% and though the strategy is more difficult, it is a game that is a pretty good compromise between fewer ups and downs and still having some good bonus hands to shoot for.I know that for a lot of folks, the DW games are a staple but I haven't seemed to be able to do much more than extend my play on them.  There are only two really good hits....quad deuces and natural royals.  I've hit my share of them, but with the infrequent session play I am able to enjoy, I don't notice the positive effects of that long term play with Deuces.Consequently, I accept the many losing sessions with DDB and TBP and even DB in order to enjoy those infrequent big hits.  You'd think I'd find a way to justify TDB but alas, I've never been able to do so.

[faygo]

I don't know why, but I found DDB easier to learn then JOB. It has a couple of nuances though that will get you if your not paying attention. I think I like the idea of holding a lone Ace over 2 face cards in JOB.
WP6 or VPW (or others) are an absolute necessity.
I also found bonus deuces easier than regular deuces. I'm always missing the inside straight holds.
Another fairly easy game to master is Kings or Better Joker Poker.

[Notspock]

I have a limited bankroll but I sure like the rush from hitting 4oak on a bonus machine.  I think a compromise for me would be playing deuces wild on a 50/100 play machine @ nickels.  Its pretty exciting to be delt a good hand on a 50/100 play machine.
 
I live in Central Florida.  My play is limited to one, perhaps two trips to Las Vegas per year. 
 
There is a Seminole Indian Bingo Hall that is about 50 away that has only class II machines.  They have only 6 video Poker machines, four of them are 3,5 or 10 play and multi-denominational.  They have great pay tables compared to the casinos of the Las Vegas strip. 
 
These machines are tied to some type of bingo jack pot.  They seem to play just like the Vegas machines, except that they do funny things with odd pennies.  When you change to credits to indicate dollars, there are odd cents.  Otherwise they seem like a regular ticket in/ticket out machine.  It is odd that all of these machines prompt you to hold cards and the prompts seem to be following the basics of the strategy books I have read.
 
I have only played these machines a very limited amount as I am suspicious and not knowledgeable enough to know if there is some large disadvantage for the player.
 
It just doesn't seem like the only Indian Tribe that has never signed a treaty with the USA would have full pay machines that prompt perfect strategy when I think that would really want to scalp us.
 
The rumor is, The Seminole Tribe of Florida has only 3,000-3,500 members and each one (Man, woman and child) gets about $3k per month from the tribal revenue.  This might be true....they bought out the Hard Rock operation except for the Vegas casino and the have 5-6 airplanes and helicopters, including a Gulfstream Jet.

[shadowman]

I think there are now some class III machines in Florida.
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/E_FL.htm
 

[EDC1977]

  MikeA.: thanks for clarifying my suspicions. Sometimes I can't hit squat, sometimes I'll walk even and occasionally the leprechaun will deal you a quad or fill in the missing cards for an RF! Those are the days that make it all worthwhile. Now if they could only happen more frequently

[MikeA]

  MikeA.: thanks for clarifying my suspicions. Sometimes I can't hit squat, sometimes I'll walk even and occasionally the leprechaun will deal you a quad or fill in the missing cards for an RF! Those are the days that make it all worthwhile. Now if they could only happen more frequentlyHonestly Ed, I think that you will find that those who claim success at Video Poker are those who play the comps.  Remember, the comps are awarded whether you win or lose since they are based on hands played.  I'm quite sure that this comp thing is the factor that makes games like DW and JOB and even Bonus Poker something tolerable, especially on single line play.For those of use who are not playing the comp game, it seems to be more of a matter of striking it rich with the bonuses.  I've never made much of a secret of it that I seek out the nickel machines and probably spend more time looking for something close to full pay on them than actually playing!  Consequently, at 1/2 comp compared to slots, I do not get enough in comps to make much difference.  Maybe a coffee mug from some player's club .

[EDC1977]

    And to think I was one of the few cheapskates that logs on here. I won't think about denominations higher than quarters unless the VP gods are smiling on me. Occasionally I'll play dollars but usually, my budget won't allow it and still have enough for family entertainment. When the kids don't go, then the cat will prowl!

[MikeA]

    And to think I was one of the few cheapskates that logs on here. Hardly Ed!I've played a LOT of Video Poker over the years and personally, haven't seen any reason to up the ante but for one positive aspect:  There are more full pay quarter machines than there are nickel machines.However, My results have not been overwhelmingly positive!  I play the best pay tables I can find, and do admit that those are not always full pay.  I play 9/6 DDB and 9/6 DB.  I've also played some 8/5 TBP.  I avoid paytables worse than these even at nickel levels.I've just never seen the sense in risking 5 times my bet with the kinds of results I've come to expect!  I'd much rather go home after a trip losing $200 than losing $1,000.  And the instances from which I retire with a positive balance are sweet diversions from the norm <LOL>  It's all about entertainment for me.

[Eduardo]

That's good, MikeA.
 
But entertainment, schmintertainment, I'm going to win my money back on my next trip!