Chips

[binoy]

Someone mentioned changing chips in the vp machines.what exactly r on these chips? They Mentioned hard to get four of a kind,not many royals. Maybe it’s the chips? Anybody want to respond? Let’s hear about these chips!

[binoy]

Someone mentioned changing microchips in the vp machines. Is this possible to change how often u can hit jackpots?

[Eduardo]

No. A new chip probably means adding a new game like DDB to a game, or maybe new pay tables. Pay tables (win amounts) can be changed, but those are always visible to the user on the screen before they play. They can't reprogram a machine to pay out fewer 4 of a kinds or royals. That would be illegal.

[DaBurglar]

No. A new chip probably means adding a new game like DDB to a game, or maybe new pay tables. Pay tables (win amounts) can be changed, but those are always visible to the user on the screen before they play. They can't reprogram a machine to pay out fewer 4 of a kinds or royals. That would be illegal.

Excellent point(s) 'Wardo'.......we all know how, in this formerly great but about to be made "bigly GREAT" country that we happen to live in, corporations (and the individuals who work in and for them) NEVER perpetrate anything, any acts, any campaigns etc. that break the laws of the land. Such malfeasance, such shortsighted greediness and corruption, just does not happen in the..... Good..... Ol' ...... YOU-Knighted-Stay-Tssss of AMERICAHHHHHH!

[Eduardo]

"Some corporations in America have done bad things" is not justification for a conspiracy theory.

[Carcounter]

Someone make DaBurglar great again.

[Casino Knight]

In days long past, Operators of gray market Video Poker and Keno Machines were able to set the returns players received with the manipulation of a DIP SWITCH. Regardless of the paytable shown on the screen. Prior to IGRA, several Tribes in Arizona used these types of machines, which were located in their Bingo Halls, Smoke Shops, and Convenience Stores. Nowadays, under IGRA, these machines have been outlawed. Eduardo is spot on.

[DaBurglar]

"Some corporations in America have done bad things" is not justification for a conspiracy theory.

No offense, but this refutation is false logic, and simplistic.

A casino that chooses to somehow "cheat" (or even just violate the "spirit" of any state's gaming regulations and practices) is not in and of itself automatically a "CONSPIRACY", it's just fraud, malfeasance....or theft, take your pick. I'm simply saying your apparent refusal to acknowledge that it is of course POSSIBLE that a casino(s) could perpetrate acts of dishonesty on its customers in the name of greed is illogical. I admit it is NOT likely or probable, but it is NOT impossible nor is it as far fetched aS you want to argue.

During the period 2001 thru 2008, when the Wall street banks and various regional banks across the country, along with selected other companies in other industries (like AIG and General Motors) chose to violate established best practices for accounting, violate state and federal guidelines for managing debt/extending credit, and violate sheer common sense, it was not a "conspiracy"....it was just criminal negligence, incompetence, amoral business practices all manifesting itself into extremely unethical and ultimately destructive behavior. And there were all kinds of laws, safeguards and checks in place or in existence that were, by design SUPPOSED TO PREVENT such a thing as the 2008 credit & banking meltdown from even starting...the unethical practices and behavior on the business & banking side was coupled by a oblivious, stupid ignorant "hands off" approach to enforcing existing laws and regulations by the typical Conservative Republicans in power at that time, with a lesser degree of complicity but still guilty nonetheless, on the part of some very dumb Democrats.

Thus, in the case of casinos, the casino(s) itself can of course perpetrate something unethical and illegal .....AND it is possible that existing enforcement authorities (such as any one of your typical state gaming control agencies) could either simply fall asleep at the switch or could deliberately fail to properly and consistently enforce and check its regulations are in place for any number of reasons.....again, I am not saying this is at all likely or even probable but it is not IMPOSSIBLE or inconceivable, as evidenced by the world we live in (which, contrary to your original statement, DOES constitute precedent and relevance as to the morality of this world.)

[FloridaPhil]

Thus, in the case of casinos, the casino(s) itself can of course perpetrate something unethical and illegal .....AND it is possible that existing enforcement authorities (such as any one of your typical state gaming control agencies) could either simply fall asleep at the switch or could deliberately fail to properly and consistently enforce and check its regulations are in place for any number of reasons.....again, I am not saying this is at all likely or even probable but it is not IMPOSSIBLE or inconceivable, as evidenced by the world we live in (which, contrary to your original statement, DOES constitute precedent and relevance as to the morality of this world.)

Anything is possible. The question you have to ask yourself if why would they do that, especially with the odds we have these days? In my travels I have seen a lot of video poker machines. Obviously I have not seen them all. I have seen issues that could be interpreted by players as cheating, that would pass a gambling commission inspection. For example, the poor maintenance of the machines in Atlantic City. Sticky buttons and bad keyboards can increase the house edge just as much as any hidden software manipulation.

The best way to avoid any question of tampering is to avoid the machines you believe have been tampered with. Lord knows there are enough casinos in this world without playing where you believe the games are not completely fair. If you want to argue that some machines are rigged, I will say in my opinion they are not. If you say some casinos intentionally keep their machines in bad repair to increase the house edge, I wholeheartedly agree. Caveat Emptor...

[DaBurglar]

Thus, in the case of casinos, the casino(s) itself can of course perpetrate something unethical and illegal .....AND it is possible that existing enforcement authorities (such as any one of your typical state gaming control agencies) could either simply fall asleep at the switch or could deliberately fail to properly and consistently enforce and check its regulations are in place for any number of reasons.....again, I am not saying this is at all likely or even probable but it is not IMPOSSIBLE or inconceivable, as evidenced by the world we live in (which, contrary to your original statement, DOES constitute precedent and relevance as to the morality of this world.)

Anything is possible. The question you have to ask yourself if why would they do that, especially with the odds we have these days? In my travels I have seen a lot of video poker machines. Obviously I have not seen them all. I have seen issues that could be interpreted by players as cheating, that would pass a gambling commission inspection. For example, the poor maintenance of the machines in Atlantic City. Sticky buttons and bad keyboards can increase the house edge just as much as any hidden software manipulation.

The best way to avoid any question of tampering is to avoid the machines you believe have been tampered with. Lord knows there are enough casinos in this world without playing where you believe the games are not completely fair. If you want to argue that some machines are rigged, I will say in my opinion they are not. If you say some casinos intentionally keep their machines in bad repair to increase the house edge, I wholeheartedly agree. Caveat Emptor...

Phil, you essentially answer the question of "why would a casino perpetrate unfair or illegal acts" by referencing your AC experience and observations. As I have said previously, AC is the only casino market where I have ever felt it possible that things were not completely on the level....the fact that for quite a long time, AC casinos were on the brink of Oblivion made the conditions for unfair & illegit practices ripe. Plus, I have reported on the totally inadequate and passive manner in which AC is regulated by the NJ commission since 2010 (when the entire regulatory apparatus was slashed 80% and combined with the state police!)

Something has always been "off" with the VP in AC, compared with places like Vegas and elsewhere.